Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza
Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza
Trump says ‘clean out that whole thing’ as part of his plan for Gaza
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25231050
By Lubna Masarwa in Jerusalem Published date: 26 January 2025 10:44 GMT
[some very ominous statements from #Trump]
Gaza protesters got so owned… All that yelling about Biden, Harris, Democrats, while Trump was openly saying this shit all along. And a bunch of you will continue to only complain about Democrats as Gaza gets “cleaned”. You fucking tools.
The democrats could have tried not aiding the genocide. That was always an option. Seems like this was gonna happen either way…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leahy_Law
Exactly. I feel sorry for everyone in the US who has to live through another Trump term, but from my outsider perspective the Dems really screwed themselves on this one.
Yeah, whether or not these people who keep patting themselves on the back every single time some new horrible news about Gaza comes out want to admit it, the democrats are complicit in this.
It’s the brain rot of two party politics. The idea that democrats are guilty of aiding in a genocide cannot exist at the same time as the idea that trump would continue and worsen the genocide. They can’t conceive of a situation where the vote for genocide or genocide was unpalatable for many people.
And do they blame the people committing genocide? No, they throw streamers in the air and pop poppers because now they get to say they were right. It doesn’t fucking matter. People are being slaughtered. And our country is complicit. It’s not about blue or red complicity. It’s about the fact that we had no choice but to either shoulder the blame for trump’s deeds, or to shut up and vote for genocide participants.
Why does everything have to be so binary? Is it really that complicated to say there was no good answer on the ballot? Yes, trump is undoubtedly worse. But the fact that we weren’t given any good options to vote for is not on people who couldn’t stomach looking the other way and saying “well, yeah they may be advocating for continuing to aid in genocide, but…”
We all get it. We’ve always gotten it. We didn’t vote for trump. The people who literally thought trump was going to fix the situation and DID vote for him are to blame. But the democrats are to blame for 99% of their own loss. The sooner people stop trying to high road people who couldn’t stomach the choice, the sooner we can be to fuckin doing something about it. And the sooner we can all admit we were given a fuckin shit sandwich or a diarrhea smoothie to choose from, the sooner we can find some fuckin class solidarity. Stop blaming the underclass for being beholden to the ownership class. That’s not our choice. Driving a wedge between the other people who—according to those who keep cheering themselves on—apparently want to see the genocide end is not helping anyone but the people who can’t stop congratulating themselves—well, themselves and the ownership class committing the genocide.
Hamas could have not done that attack or given up the hostages when it was clear what a strategic blunder said attack was… Hezbolla figured it out real quick and didn’t join the attack as they had promised. Meanwhile, US protests have virtually disappeared since Election Day, as if the point was about disenfranchising Democrats and little to do with Gaza. To this day, people who are so concerned about “genocide” don’t say shit about Sudan.. Anyway, you can carry on all day about what Democrats should have done and it’ll still be true that Biden or Harris was Gaza’s best case scenario in terms of practical action vs Trump and his goons.
This glib self congratulatory nonsense is why Democrats will lose forever. Democrats got owned because they spent 8 or 9 months telling everyone that they were working tirelessly on a ceasefire. And what this whole fiasco is proving is that Biden could have stopped it with a phone call but he didn't. And the polling after the fact shows that would be democratic voters stayed home because they were absolutely disgusted by their party preaching morality doing the right thing while perpetrating/enabling one of the most repugnant acts of slaughter against a trapped population. It all stopped with a phone call from Trump. Whether it was just a temporary pause for the inauguration or a pure attempt at culling the violence in the middle east (it doesn't matter). It just proved that the Democrats are absolutely full of shit and willing to spite their own constituency to keep oligarchy money flowing.
Damn, you are seriously drinking some vile maga propaganda if you believe that. I suggest you choose a better information diet.
https://time.com/7207250/ceasefire-gaza-israel-hamas/
You can't condemn a bad person or entity because another one will do more bad things? What kind of logic is this? Do you really care about palestinians or you just defend your democrat cult?
You can condemn them while not letting the proto fascist in.
I never saw a single person say Trump would be better for Palestine, so I'm not sure what you're on about...
As for complaining about Dems and not Trump, that makes sense to me because it's assumed that Trump is shit, but Dems pretend to be better than they are.
There were absolutely people on Lemmy claiming Trump would be better.
Tolerance for this nonsense attitude is why the Democrats never feel a need to respond to their own constituents. You are berating people for choosing the ‘burn Palestinians’ party instead of the ‘turn Palestinians into ground meat’ party. Neither vote would have changed anything about the circumstances on the ground, but for some reason, people like you want to perpetuate the myth that Democrats as a party are even slightly better than Republicans on this issue. Your attitude makes progress on this issue in US politics dramatically less likely.