Based Red Dead

Assuming OOP said 'retarded', that doesn't fit their message well does it?

You also don’t lose honor for killing this guy, and can do it right in front of the police without them reacting

https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Norris_Forsythe

Is it as bad as GTA Online?

You can? Tho they are quite expensive, still cheaper than a gf tho!

But what does that have to do with this game?

Because the game sold and reviewed well, so it goes against the narrative of “get woke go broke”

What is woke about the game?

Mainly because you can shove “woke” shit down peoples throats and they won’t care as long as they get to play a manly man or stacked chick and the story and characters are well developed. It’s just when the game is really bad that people care about it and then the studios can blame the poor performance on the alt-right as a cop out for their shitty game. I.e. Star Wars outlaws and Concorde

Oh we're they saying these things like how much they hate Wokeness or something?

I thought this was an endorsement!

That's what I don't get, out of millions and hundreds of thousands gamers, how many are actually that stupid and bigoted to rage on anything they don't like? These incel gamers always accuse many games as being woke, but then these games are blockbusters. Devs listen to a loud minority who don't represent the entire community of gamers. The rest are silent majority, who have varying interest of games, like a game for being a good game, not because it is "woke". And hate a bad game, because it is a bad game. It's simple as.

Devs fall into the faux outrage bait from tiny minority of unthinking hordes, and it actually makes them bad than if they just ignore ridiculous baseless cries.

Cyberpunk got a lot of hate by that crowd leading into release, and they dunked on the release a ton as if it vindicated them.

Which ones are they listing? I'm a bit out of the bigotry loop.

These actually had distinction:

Defectives was generally the term prior to like 1845, which is when Howe published “on the causes of idiocy”. That led to more classification

Idiot was what we could call severe intellectual disability. Requiring 24 hour care but some muscular control, cognitive, and speech capabilities. Use was phased out in the late 19th century because it had become pejorative

Fool was a subcategory of idiot with more significant impairment of reasoning and speech skills. This became pejorative and was phased out.

Simpleton was moderate intellectual disability. Some degree of functioning, capacity for speech, motor and reasoning skills, but required assistance with tasks. This also become pejorative and was phased out (see a pattern). This was replaced with several terms, including feeble minded, imbecile, and moron, which were also in turn phased out.

at one point in the 19th century there was a distinction when symptoms of dementia set in. If you got what we would now call early onset dementia, it was called “amentia”. By the early 20th century “ament” was kind of a catch all for “idiots, imbeciles, and feeble minded”

There was also “cretin” which was originally supposed to be a kindness for all intellectually disabled people as it means “Christian” in French or something, but it also became pejorative

Another super racist one was mongoloid/mongolism which was specifically for Down’s syndrome. This is because, no joke, John Down thought people with down syndrome looked like Mongolians. His reward for his racism was the condition bears his name forever, apparently. This was only changed because Mongolia had to petition the WHO to change it because it was offensive

Imo instead of policing language we should maybe recognize that the intentionality behind the use of these terms is what the problem is.

Saying the word “retarded” does not have to be inherently offensive. Describing something that is slowed or hindered as retarded is accurate. Using retarded as a pejorative term makes you a dick, sure. But if I go through all the effort to change “retarded” to “intellectually disabled” guess what happens? The same thing that has happened for the past 175+ years. The people who have used the terms in the pejorative sense will quickly adapt, making your efforts to police language pointless unless you intended to enrich their lexicon.

If you consider actions that could actually be meaningful for the individual it would be something that would address the harm caused by pejorative use. That’s a challenging road to go down (imagine criminal penalties: middle schools would be ghost towns!). we want to feel like we do something though so we instead do this, which is pointless.

That said if the disorder was named by an old racist based on his racism then by all means change it up but maybe don’t memorialize him when you do it. That doesn’t come up as much anymore, thankfully

Are you saying white slavery was as systemic and width spread as black slavery in America? If so I’ve missed a big part of the American slave history.

Not comparable