My great grandpa who lived to be 95: "well after my lunch of a streak, 3 old fashions and half a pack of cigarettes, time to get back to installing phone lines in asbestos filled building!"
Me in my 30s: "my doctor says I need to eat nothing but kale and lukewarm water or I'll die at 50"
Oh man, you reminded me of the existence of Thomas Midgley Jr., just one of the absolute guys of all time. That he died in his own Wallace-and-Gromit-like bed contraption is just the perfect end for him.
My great grandmother lived and worked in lumber camps for her first thirty years and then textile mills for thirty more. She smoked like a chimney and started every morning off with a screwdriver. She lived into her mid 90s. Sometimes I wonder if I should be more like her.
My grandpa would take a swig of port wine every morning. I don't want to defend functioning alcoholism, mind you. i've worked enough jobs where I was the only sober guy present.
My grandpa was a drunk from 10-70. Now he cant walk and is in and out of the hospital and my grandma takes care of him. Shes the same age and took care herself so you wouldn’t really think shes almost 80. But also my step dads brother just died out of nowhere at 59 to brain cancer. It’s surreal because I just saw him last year and he looked great. His dad also lived to 80 and mom to 96. So yolo this shit imo
I see three possible avenues for this. 1. We get more sugar than them and sugar is worse than we realize. 2. They had less liberalism, and living with community and purpose was better enough to keep them going. 3. They died more and if anything was gonna make them sick they wouldn't have survived till old age so the survivorship bias is stronger.
So we just need to find a way to isolate those variables and do a regression for the data. Yeah?
They died more and if anything was gonna make them sick they wouldn't have survived till old age so the survivorship bias is stronger.
It's sort of this, but also the fact that risk factors are probabilistic and there are, to put it bluntly, a very large number of people. Some might theoretically have a small mutation that makes their system more robust in some indefinable way, but mostly it's just a matter of there being so many people that some of them are going to win all the "risk of imminent death" dice rolls for a very long time.
The correct steps to live until you are 90 are: eat fried food, drink sugarcane syrup and never go to the doctor. The most important part is never ever seeing a doctor, if they don't examine you, you'll never get sick
I think about this phenomenon a lot. some of it is certainly survivor bias, but I do think environmental contaminants and industrial food processing are cumulative and subject to some kind magnification.
of course, I never met any of my grandfathers as they died from cardiac events in their 40s before I was born. one was due to major alcoholism and the other is unknown... just a massive heart attack 20 years before I was born. the next gen of men seem to have mostly made it to their 70s, with some close calls and none of them are what I would call robust individuals. definitely higher incidence of diagnosed metabolic disorders and their comorbidities. also, a lot of late boomers just seem to ignore everything their doctors say.
I have an aunt in her 70s that can now no longer walk and has lost her vision after ignoring her doctors about controlling her diabetes for 20 years. just kept on chowing down on pasta and sugary drinks, not taking any of her medications. I do not get it at all. now all her retired siblings are having to figure out the schedule for taking care of her for the next decade or whatever.
I noticed something with boomers in my family. they all swore up and down that "when the time comes, I don't want to be a burden" but despite all the material capacity, time to plan, and infrastructure in the world, they have made absolutely zero plans to become anything but a sudden and insane burden on everyone around them, who are all working poor and can barely support themselves.
I remember all of them complaining about their parents doing it to them, and they are bending over backwards to do it even more themselves. like no understanding that they will one day stop being allowed to drive and need to plan for that day... and not try to defy it by putting their community in danger.
seriously infuriating. I get wanting to sunset on your own terms, but purposely disabling yourself in front of your loved ones has got to be some kind of emotional blackmail.
ngl the recurring significant labour associated with my job has improved my physical health a lot (and mental health.....somewhat) despite my so-so habits in the rest of life
might be something to living whatever lifestyle you can manage that stresses you out the least. Like if having drinks to relax helps you maintain a positive outlook throughout the day it might be worth it lol