If someone with a fairly good life does it, what do you think someone capitalism and greed has driven to desperation might do now that we've seen how wildly effective it is?
Frankly, it would be an objectively good thing if there were a trend of Luigi-esque incidents, because the only thing entrenched power structures will respond to is violence, and Luigi's methods did not leave much room for collateral damage.
We need some kind of large scale morally righteous social struggle. Perhaps, to use a turn of phrase, a jihad on health insurance.
Cool, go assassinate another CEO if you actually care.
Posting on the internet does nothing.
Yeah, there might be some copycats, but I'm dubious. This reignited the healthcare and wealth gap conversation, but that's about it. Nothing meaningful will come from this in regards to our legislature taking action to help the lower and middle classes out.
This guy is likely to go to jail for a long time. Law enforcement spared no expense tracking him down, catching him within days even after making a relatively clean getaway after a fairly well executed plan. Not many people have nothing to lose and/or have no fear of those kinds of consequences.
In my opinion, until around 30% of our country is on the verge of starvation, unemployment, and/or homelessness, there won't be a mass movement that chooses to take forceful action. And even if that occurs, you can guarantee all the fancy police state surveillance they've put in place over the last 20-some-odd years will get dialed up to 11.
Fairly well-executed plan? Dude was eating in public in the same jacket he wore that day.
Not to mention going without the mask at Starbucks and keeping the manifesto and weapon.
He wasn't trying to seriously evade capture. But I think he was close to having a chance.
I think that a lot of Americans have nothing to lose
Posting on the internet is effectively just leafleting, but on a mass scale.
That's not nothing, but it's certainly not enough.
Fear
We all live in fear ... fear that if we speak up, we'll lose our job ... fear that once we've spoken up, we'll never be listened to again ... fear that if we lose our job, we'll never be hired again ... fear that without work and income, we won't be able to survive ... fear that we will be ostracized by everyone if they don't/won't/can't agree with us ...
... but most of all, fear that we will be destroyed by the judicial, police, security and legal system that is owned and controlled by those we try to rebel against
... and greatest of all, we will be killed for speaking out too loudly and prominently
But we got legal weed!!111 until they decide to make it illegal and throw us in jail if we don't stay in line and keep working for our masters or a different nonsensical "because I say so" reason.
Funny way to spell "cowardice"
The fundamental difference between Luigi and the average American is that Luigi truly felt he was entitled to health care. He was so affronted by the injustice that he went postal over it.
Most Americans are either too demoralized or too cynical to believe they can do more than yell at a call center worker when claims are denied.
Dude had the means, resources, and time to do that stuff. Really desperate people are too busy trying to survive and don't have time for all this internet fetitization.
Mmm I wouldn't count them out.
Revolutions start from the top down. Not the bottom up
He also had a sense of entitlement. Marginalized folks expect to be fucked over, so they're less likely to flip out and kill somebody when it happens to them.
There’s millions of people with the traumatic experience of dealing with healthcare companies, millions of people with guns, and maybe thousands with the skills to get in range of potential targets. But the center of a Venn diagram of all three would make for the next potential shooter.
We’re sitting on a tinder box. The working class is fuming at the cost of living, and even the better off and low end of the capitalist class (unbelievably I know) are suffering under our health care system. This guy is a class traitor. He could of been a capitalist, he was born to a capitalist family that owned multiple successful businesses he theoretically could of taken over. But his pain likely radicalized him towards a different path…
I understand why the French were fed up and went agro on the wealthy in 1789. Most Americans view the wealthy as heroes and will continue to take it up the ass without lube.
The wealth distribution right now in the US is almost the same as it was in France at that time
The French were starving to death in the streets in 1789. In the US, the average poor person is exponentially more likely to suffer from obesity, than to die from lack of food.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the American people to revolt like that--things are simply not nearly as bad in the US now as they were in France then, and it's ignorant to equivocate them like this.
If I may suggest. Work and live in a 1st World EU country and one will quickly realize how far behind the USA is and what should be fixed. Crime and violence will decrease too.
have you ever seen commonly malnourished people groups? rapidly putting on weight is basically the norm for them
Can you burn a Luigi board?
Why does he always have a mouse cursor in his ear ? Is this a new US trend ?
Whoever took the original picture likely used a phone or camera to actually take a picture of a computer screen. I think I can see screen refresh artifacts in the image, too. It's mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else's screen.
It's mostly an illiterate computer user trend, or maybe someone in a hurry to capture a picture of someone else's screen
Its probably on a security/cop PC of some sort, much easier to snap a pic with your phone than to sneak a screenshot off of one of those
It's ok if you like wearing a mouse cursor in your ear, we won't judge you.
They promised him the world, then he got out and found out.
Wealthy, white girls, Sophia? Who is "WE"??
Define "effective".
What changed for the better as a result of his actions, for either him or anyone else?
The night is yet young.
we've seen how wildly effective it is
No, we haven't.
Says the white chick who just tries to be an influencer and look good for a living?
The white chick isn't the problem. Stay focused.
🤷 It pays the medical bills
You'd understand a lot more about the reasons that guys like him are fed up if you actually engaged with others outside your echo chambers instead of letting corporate media tell you they're all white supremacist bigots, while numbing your minds with every sexual perversion under the sun.
It really shouldn't be a shocker that the very same corporations who are trying to convince you that this guy is a villain and the CEO was a hero, have also been spinning similar stories to you about others in the past, yet you continue to eat that up.
Sounds like a slippery slope. That could lead to working with moderates and winning elections.
So, totally unrelated, but like hypothetically, how illegal would it be to start printing guns and giving them to people with terminal illnesses who were denied coverage? No reason in particular
Well remember the Republicans think gun control is bad, so.
It's almost like they're begging for it.
You can’t manufacture a gun for somebody else unless you’re a registered gun manufacturer. You can only make one for yourself. You can hypothetically sell/give a printed gun to someone if when you made it you didn’t intend on selling or distributing it, however many states require you to transfer that firearm via a dealer.
You would have to give/loan your cancer patient a 3d printer and maybe suggest a URL. They would have to construct the firearm themselves without help.
you can't murder people in the streets without having a badge.
yet ...
You worry about the legality of printing a gun when you want to give it to someone to use for murder?
What about pieces of a gun?
What if five people printed five different parts and traded them?
What if the pieces have multiple purposes, only one of which is part of the assembly of a gun?
Illegal. But look into 80% lower receivers for more info.
Straw purchases are illegal. So only if they can prove it
That's not how 3DP2A works. The "thing" that has to be registered is the polymer frame (on a semiautomatic handgun). That polymer frame is at least what gets printed. So if you're printing a handgun, there's no registerable purchase.