Privacy @programming.dev lemme in @lemm.ee 4 wk. ago

Cars are data-harvesting machines. These brands share your personal information

www.abc.net.au Cars are data-harvesting machines. These brands share your personal information

A Choice investigation has found most of Australia's popular car brands collect and share "driver data", ranging from braking patterns to video footage and voice recognition information.

Australia @reddthat.com Red @reddthat.com 4 wk. ago

www.abc.net.au /news/science/2024-10-09/car-brands-are-tracking-and-sharing-your-data-with-third-parties/104440742

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All this shit needs to be legislated to be opt-in.
- And then they'll just do like everyone else does, nag screens every five minutes with no "No, and don't ask me again" option, you can only say "Not now" and then it'll ask again in five minutes. Or you can have the car, but you can only use the speedometer if you agree to them monitoring your speed and you can only have headlights and windshield wipers if you agree to them recording everything you do, etc.
  
  Sounds like a vehicle I wouldn't buy. That's the ultimate control - the consumer demands privacy and buys the vehicle that provides it
  
  That needs to be shut down, too.
  
  Like those stupid cookie notices. If sites would just stop doing tracking, the notices aren’t even needed.
Kia and Hyundai, which have the same parent company, collect voice recognition data from inside their cars and sell this to the artificial intelligence (AI) software training company Credence, the Choice investigation found.

"We think that the average Hyundai driver, the average Kia driver, when they purchase their car, have no idea that this is happening," Mr Blakkarly said.

"They haven't really properly consented to their voice being used to train AI models."

Interesting. If this is being done without disclosure and without even the opportunity for the driver to give consent (or not), it seems like it's inviting a lawsuit, and it might violate recording consent laws in some states.
- I know a certain bank that is doing the same thing. If you call customer service they are using Chatgpt to listen to the entire call and recently started capturing voice data to allow AI verify they are talking to the customer. Creepy as fuck and no customer aren't told this is happening.
  
  I've seen this advertised as a fraud detection and prevention service, even before ChatGPT. I'm assuming there's a standard disclosure that the call may be recorded for training purposes, it's only recently that "training" has included "training AI".
  
  Everywhere you call warns you "this call may be recorded for quality or training purposes"
  
  They never said what they're training
- It's in the seventeen page purchase contract that they know nobody reads
Brand

Tesla

Information in privacy policy

Collects voice and video and shares some data with third parties

third parties including whoever video clips get sent to when the staff use them as funny videos and memes...
I'm surprised there aren't more brands listed
- They only looked at 10.
Tesla workers have been caught sharing among themselves highly invasive camera recordings of Tesla customers in the nude,

Thanks, but no thanks.
Is there a community for guides on how to rip out the radios?

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