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Threads makes it easier to evangelize the open social web with a new direct link feature | TechCrunch

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The fediverse is now something that you can evangelize about. Its turning into a buzzword ...

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Bottom line: is threads a potential entry-point into the fediverse for a lot of people who otherwise would not be aware/ interested? ABSOLUTELY YES.
Does that benefit offset the catastrophic harm it will do by overwhelming the fediverse with corporate interests, stacking nonprofits with Meta-friendly officers, and exerting leverage on Activity Pub development? NO WAY.
fediblock.
- i dont know how email survived, i bet whatever happened there is what will make it work too
  
  (Federated) email didn't survive. It got completely subsumed by the major providers who now have control over everything email related. It's now impossible to run your own email server since none of the major providers will deliver your email without your mail server having first built a reputation.
  The fediverse analogy would be if 99.9999% of users were on Threads and you couldn't interact with any of those users from any of the small independent fediverse servers. Frankly, that's exactly what it looks like is happening.
  
  Would be interested in an intelligent rebuttal to this seemingly decent argument, if anyone has one.
- You realize the second part would also happen if the Fediverse "takes off", yes? Then naturally companies would come in and trivially take things over as there's money to be made.
  It's a natural end state until governments can be made to curb corporate freedom.
  
  I think thats unlikely. If the fediverse wants it or not, its growth is now heavily dependent on Meta
  
  Before billion dollar companies move in, we need to see governments, universities, and journalists on the platform.
I thought Threads was for people who thought Mastodon was too complicated. What's all this "turn on sharing" mess?
- The official story is that Meta is worried about being sued by people suddenly seeing their content pushed to some random website without their consent if it's enabled by default, so they won't risk enabling it by default. At least not before the fediverse is huge enough that everything you post going everywhere on the internet is the expected behaviour.
  Fair enough really. I wouldn't want to be sued for that either, and they obviously cannot expect Congress to understand.. anything.
  
  Have Facebook not heard of the Internet? Anyone can right click save as.
  I am very skeptical that Facebook is doing federated to be nice, only to keep digital markets act off Facebooks back.
- Threads is for whoever Meta can sell it to, and I think it was pretty far along in its development before they actually committed to ActivityPub support.
Step 1. Built Internet to get away from TV
Step 2. Corporate Greed TV moves over and ruins Internet.
Step 3. Build New Internet to escape Old Internet Ruined by TV bloodsuckers.
Step 4. Go back to step 2 and replace tech names with next itteration.
Remember how web 2.0 started... Look at it now!
Don't be a corpo collaborator!
- You raise an interesting point. With web 2.0, we did the equivalent of all the fediverse stuff blocking meta. And look where that got us. Maybe it's time for a different approach.
Ahh yes the platform that is defedirated by every fediverse instance
- Except it's not deferderated by everyone.

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