A new poll finds a surprising presidential choice for Muslim American voters in Michigan
A new poll finds a surprising presidential choice for Muslim American voters in Michigan
Getting really tired of the continual misinformation on 3rd Parties, Monk.
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/the-data-how-third-parties-could-be-spoilers-that-elect-trump
"The Data: How Third Parties Could be Spoilers that Elect Trump"
"Don’t Fall for the Third-Party Trick
A progressive who stays home on Election Day — or backs Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Cornel West, or No Labels — is voting for Donald Trump."
A more damning quote is at the very end of that article:
"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that “some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest” of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called “social fascists.”
After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."
"Third-party candidates will help Trump win"
https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-dangerous-illusion-of-a-presidential-third-party-in-2024
"The Dangerous Illusion of a Presidential Third Party in 2024"
Dudes account is only 1 month old. Has almost 1000 posts and almost 2000 comments. Seems like this is his job or he is terminally online. Both are pathetic.
The dude is, at best, an idiot, at worse, a foreign paid troll pushing to get Trump elected.
Reported for civility. You can disagree with articles I post without calling me names.
I only found Lemmy last month. Was there a time limit I should have before I post article I am interested in? I didn't see any.
And I'll still be posting after the election. So then what will your complaint be?
While I generally agree with your sentiments. In this instance at least I don't know that I would call it misinformation. Ignorant people do ignorant things out of emotion very often. And I'm sure that a lot of people in those populations are being a heavily propagandized and feel a need to do this despite how much they stand to suffer from it.
Portraying third party presidential candidates as anything more than an ineffectual handwavy the way to absolve yourself of responsibility without actually taking responsibility. Absolutely is misinformation. Highlighting that the misinformation and propaganda are working, which is ironically all this really does. Despite OPs intentions. Does have some value. Though I understand your frustration with them.
Getting really tired of the continual misinformation on 3rd Parties, Monk.
Understood. But what misinformation are you seeing? This article doesn't speak out against any of the issues you pointed out.
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DISCLAIMER: America has a two party system. In the current political climate, both parties are supportive of Israel and voting therefore offers no way to solve this issue. Trump is also worse than Harris on this issue. Not voting or choosing 3rd party only helps the republicans, and if you don't agree with their platform, the only rational electoral choice is to vote blue. While you may disagree with some policies, one has to make a pragmatic decision on election day. Voting is a chess move not a love letter. The death will continue regardless, we have no power to stop it.
Now that's over....
Wow wouldn't it be nice if the democratic party didn't insist on arming an active genocide and alienating large numbers of would be voters through their uncritical support of an apartheid state.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could have a candidate who did not support acts which are fundamentally evil
The glaring issue is we do have a nonevil anti genocide candidate in the ballot, but people are more comforted by their preferred and familiar evil
Do you mean Russian Asset Jill Stein who also actively opposes Ukraine?
No, that's not it at all. The glaring issue is that the 3rd party candidates have ZERO chance of winning the presidency. None, zilch, nada. Comprendez? Simply put, they almost certainly aren't on enough state ballots to get the required 270 EC votes, but even if they did they wouldn't even come close.
And I'm sorry, you're saying people that vote for the only 2 plausible candidates are evil? Sounds like trying to justify crashing planes to me.
Trump is also worse than Harris on this issue. Not voting or choosing 3rd party only helps the republicans, and if you don’t agree with their platform, the only rational electoral choice is to vote blue.
I disagree, but you have a well-written post. So I appreciate your contributions.
Can't wait for liberals to get extremely racist in reaction to Palestinian-Americans not voting for the genocide of their own families.
You're so one-note. I'm amazed that you can't see how you're working against your own interests here. Every post you make seems to turn more people away from what you advocate for.
Unfortunately you don't get points for trying, and the effect you're having is certainly not helping the Palestinian cause. It's truly stunning to watch you be so self-interested in being perceived as "right" that you can't see the negative effect you are having.
Sigh. Voting for Stein helps Trump. Trump is worse for Palestine than Harris.
We can grandstand and holier-than-thou all we fucking want, but it's simple Aristotilian logic.
Since many in this community have a habit of resorting to personal attacks when responding to posts recently, I'll say this: I support and respect everyone’s right to vote for who they want to.
I'm just posting this article that’s already available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy—I didn’t write it, just sharing it for discussion.
Wow statistically supporting Trump is a very bold move. Considering that he wants to ban them and Deport them at best.
Talking about dignity and what actually happens is 2 different issues. They talked ceasefire while simultaneously giving money and weapons to the time of 500 weapons drops. What they say is just as disingenuous as anything coming out of a Republicans mouth. They talk about concern for environment while ignoring the first 2 months of Israeli bombing had the same environmental impact as 150k tons of burned coal.
Republicans have a long and storied history of convincing people to vote against their best interests.
That's very true. And I have a pretty big feeling that puttenstein gets her funding from a lot of the same people.
And so do the Democrats.
Democrats supporting genocide of Muslims is statistically supporting Trump.
Trump said he wants Isreal to finish the job. You're fooling yourself if you think Trump won't intentionally make things worse.
They want to vote for Stein. They get to do what they want with their votes. They are educated enough to choose which candidate they want to vote for. Even if it's not your candidate.
Where did I say they didn't? I simply said as facts support that that statistically only supports Trump and not Stein. When it comes to presidential elections third parties are persona non grata outside of helping the worst option get elected.
I guess 2000 was long enough ago to forget
Telling someone their vote is wasted on a 3rd party is blatant right wing voter suppression and they wonder why over 100m people don't vote. They say republicans vote against their own interests while demanding 3rd party voters do they same