Europe to End 'Salary Secrecy': Employee Salaries to Become Public by 2026
Europe to End 'Salary Secrecy': Employee Salaries to Become Public by 2026
It has been one year since the enactment of Directive 2023/970 of the European Parliament, also known as the Salary Transparency Law. This law will require all companies to make public the salary ranges of all their employees. In other words, you will know if your colleagues receive the same salary ...
Only the salary ranges for a position become public. They aren’t going to publish what they pay each employee.
And if it’s anything like California the ranges will be useless. My salary “range” is quoted as $80k - $170k. Real fucking useless.
My salary is between $1 and $10000000
I've looked at some California ranges. They tend to be well below what levels.fyi claims these companies pay (I'm thinking Netflix, Microsoft, Google).
I'm assuming they lowball the range in the ad so if they get a candidate that doesn't fit the original criteria they were thinking of but they still want to onboard, they can pay less. If they get a candidate that they really like, maybe they'll pay more? I know we're supposed to be all doom and gloom here, but there's plenty of folks making ludicrous salaries in tech.
I assume there may be some cutoff point, but what if you have a low number of people in the role say for example 2. Wouldn't that be pretty much narrowing it down to being per employee?
Interesting..... Look forward to seeing how it goes. Hope the gender pay gap does collapse but I'd say we are still a generation of workers away from that being a reality.
Knowing what your coworkers are getting paid lets you know how much you can reasonably ask for.
And knowing what folks at the job down the street make means you can quickly determine whether its worth the trouble to find a new job.
Also probably doesn't hurt to know what the folks upstairs are making when you're deciding whether to form a union.
Gender pay gap uncorrected for working hours, position, ...? Or the corrected one?
You do know that the gender pay gap in the same position with the same experience essentially doesn't exist in Europe?
Coincidentally, publishing salary ranges isn't gonna help with the gender pay gap.
So, if you actually care about the issue, maybe go educate yourself first.
I wonder if this could help the IT workers from the public sector in Germany (E12, around 2500 €/month).
Anyone knows why it is like that?
Once, I heard about some speculative extra amounts made by guarantees in purchases. (Germans love guarantees, and any hardware purchase has a 50% surplus that can easily be split 1:1 between vendor and whoever was in charge. Yes, it would be illegal.. But nearly impossible to prove.)
I work in the Dutch public sector in IT, but with a few years of experience, I'm already beyond 4k/mo.
Sounds like the union isn't pulling it's weight...
In this case the Unions and HRs rigidity could be part of the problem.
They tend to make groups based on formal qualifiaction. E.g. all trade apprentices get similiar salaries, all trade masters, all bachelor degrees and all master degrees (simplified).
So a person with just a formal trade apprentice, but great experience and proven know-how will still get a much lower salary than a recently graduates business degree "idiot" who mostly managed to study based on his parents pushing him through.
I've seen Job ads for cloud experts, who are supposed to organize an infrastructure over multiple data centres, running hundreds of different services in a heightened security environment offered around 3k. The Operations people said that this does not need a masters degree, because they didn't want to filter out all the self taught people, and then HR and the Union reps said this is a trade level position so it gets a trade level salary.
From what i understood with the complexity of the IT landscape they would have needed to offer more around 6-7k to find people.
Sounds more like the union is not needed at all in that sector. 2500€/month is a fine starting pay, especially if it rises so rapidly.
E12 starts at 4.170,32 € gross and up to rises 6.516,74 € depending on experience. That is gross. That is for a job, which is low stress and you can not be fired unless you pretty much commit a crime on the workplace.
Here in Washington State it has had some effect. At my work, we had many people leave because their salary wasn't on the high side of the range even though they were more senior. We also had hiccups in hiring because candidates come in asking for the high end salary but then their experience is abysmal to say the least. But then you train this person for 2 or 3 years for them to actually be of any use, and they leave because now they got something to chase a higher salary with. A small company can't afford to raise salaries all the time, specially if it's for people who are in training and don't even know it. Anyway, to give you a clue, if you fuck up like 5 times and nobody gives a shit, you're still in training. However, if you think you're gonna fuck up and upper management call a meeting to discuss the status, then you should probably ask for a raise.
Oh but back to the topic. It's good! And you don't have to wait for the government to divulge it. You can legally tell anyone how much you make. And you should do that. Specially to younger people.