Why Karl Marx Desperately Needed Jordan Peterson's Advice - Foundation for Economic Education
Why Karl Marx Desperately Needed Jordan Peterson's Advice - Foundation for Economic Education
More than anyone else in history, Karl Marx exemplified trying to fix the world while neglecting to clean one's own room first.
I audibly guffawed when I saw the title
I didn't post in dunk tank because the concept, title and byline are so silly that you can't get upset with it.
"You are right Comrade Peterson, I will clean my room and abandon this "communism" nonsense I was cooking up immediately."
As someone of German ancestry, I can attest that this type of slovenliness is not a typical trait of Germans, then or now. Germans tend to pride themselves on their cleanliness.
Timekeeping and hygiene are not fucking ontological traits you fascist fucking freak
Fun fact: The Nazi propaganda film The Eternal Jew used unflattering footage of impoverished Jews living in Polish slums to make the claim that Jews enjoy living in filth, unlike the clean and tidy Aryan master race.
I am a German today, my ancestry is nothing but Germans for at least 4 generations and my flat is a bit of a mess. I need to vacuum and dust and put things away. But I won't, no for a while longer at least. I washed my dirty dishes today and empties my overfull trash bin. That's gotta be enough.
Not that it matters at all, these genetic arguments are stupid and normalize thinking about everything in terms of race.
also "of german ancestry" means his great great grandparents immigrated to the US in 1897
Germans also used to literally pick through their own feces as a matter of health. It's not that they are clean, it's that there is a certain class-based anal-retentive expectation. I've never met people more consistently sloppily hammered during the day than Germans (outside of maybe Wisconsin).
Marx dunked so hard on these people that he's living rent free in their heads 150 years later.
Strive to make posts so good, that people born long after you're dead will still be mad about them.
"Marx was stinky" is literally the best argument they have against communism.
Marx failed to consider that he smells and probably has cooties
I would inhale that Marx-musk. Deeply!
It’s not an exaggeration to say that it’s hard to imagine a more wretched human being than Karl Marx.
I tried really hard to think of a worse German but I couldn’t think of one
As someone of German ancestry, I can attest that this type of slovenliness is not a typical trait of Germans, then or now. Germans tend to pride themselves on their cleanliness.
Germans are clean in a fundamentally genetic sense. And, after all, Marx was ethnically Jewish.
Jonathan Miltimore is the former Senior Creative Strategist of FEE.org at the Foundation for Economic Education.
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The Germans are so clean they're famous for doing cleansings.
M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.
—Karl Marx, Foreword to The Poverty of Philosophy
I feel like this somehow applies to Jordan Peterson.
M. Proudhon's work is not just a treatise on political economy, an ordinary book; it is a bible. "Mysteries", "Secrets Wrested from the Bosom of God", "Revelations" – it lacks nothing. But as prophets are discussed nowadays more conscientiously than profane writers, the reader must resign himself to going with us through the arid and gloomy eruditions of "Genesis", in order to ascend later, with M. Proudhon, into the ethereal and fertile realm of super-socialism.
I was going to say Marx would've dunked on Peterson in his signature dunking way, and here indeed is the proof.
The only sad thing about Marx not getting Peterson's advice is that we missed out on the incredible put downs he would've responded with.
M. Proudhon has the misfortune of being peculiarly misunderstood in Europe. In France, he has the right to be a bad economist, because he is reputed to be a good German philosopher. In Germany, he has the right to be a bad philosopher, because he is reputed to be one of the ablest French economists. Being both German and economist at the same time, we desire to protest against this double error.
This is one of the hardest dunks i ever read, hell, Marx even went as far as to write a dunk book about guy in the guy own native language just to make the puns and points land even harder. Absolute chad.
the author.Something Adam just rattled off on a
ep was about how so many think tank guys and Economist writers are in their early 20s and that shit really stuck with me
Failsons gotta keep busy somehow.
What about Peterson's crippling benzo addiction? What right does he have to give advice if he cannot control his substance use?
Hypocrisy doesn't even slow down chuds and arguably the cognitive dissonance makes chuds cling closer to their hypocritical thought leaders.
Marx failed to consider getting addicted to benzos and having a Russian quack put you into an induced coma so that you wouldn't have to deal with the shakes and then wake up with brain damage
Three things to remember whenever JBP and Marx are brought up at the same time:
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Marx and Engels created and outlined Communism as a system to oppose and replace capitalism.
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Without understanding Capitalism you cannot fully understand Communism.
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Capitalism is a thing that Peterson doesn't understand.
I highly contest the first part of that statement. Marx and Engels were not particularly keen on describing and outlining what 'Communism' would look like, with that vagary being a major contesting point between multiple communist and leftist factions. They did believe that it has to come, or it would bring about the ruin of the contenting classes, but what it would look like and how it was organized was deliberately vague because it would be like someone in the feudal system trying to describe capitalism. What was clear to them was that money and the state would need to be abolished, as they would be unnecessary to a freed working class, but how those relationships would be established was not described.
That said, there is no better explanation and description of capitalism than Marx and Engels, to have any real understanding or build an even remotely close model of modern political economic realities, you have to start with them. That doesn't mean you can't get into some weird offshoots, but JP's problem is that he hasn't even read any Marx and Engels in the first place. He can't even describe what they are actually talking about, let alone present an adequate critique of it (which there absolutely is).
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Peterson should've taken marx's advise about opium abuse.
Why is the idea of getting your own house in order as a first priority - which is literally just common sense wisdom that about 10,000 writers would’ve said before - now exclusively the domain of Jordan Peterson? He didn’t invent that! You don’t have to read a right-wing grifter to get common sense advice!
Thousands upon thousands of writers for thousands upon thousands of years: "I made this"
Hands it to Jordan Peterson to take a look
JP: "If you look at the wider picture and look at Hegel and Strasser's combined writings, it is clear with a measured degree of certainty that, if you measure the chaos quotient of space as opposed to chicken noodle soup, that I made this"
Idiots on the internet: "Wow, so deep! He made this! HE MADE THIS!"
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marx derived his wisdom from the stench and itch of never washing
Marx preparing to write theory
He had the messiest room in history.
Even the most intense NEET otaku was but a child compared to him.
650 words is barely a fucking article
You ask too much of a smirking failson getting a gold star from
for writing "destroying the planet for greed and being ruled over by insatiable leaky bucket narcissists is cool and good actually" puff pieces.Not everyone can write exhaustively long shitty Harry Potter fanfiction for that same purpose, you know.
Which part? The "status quo is fine and you're not allowed to criticize it unless you have a spotless room?"
Well some good would come of that, because Jordan Peterson sometimes had a fucking hoarder-tier mess behind him during videos and his crying about wokeness should therefore stop immediately because wokeness is already part of the status quo by his own definition and therefore would have to shut the fuck up.
What a joke of an article. These "think" tank morons just phone it in, every damn time. FEE has to be among the very worst, with seemingly no standards for what kind of garbage gets posted on their site. I recall that another FEE "writer" was featured on a Chapo episode some time ago, and their prose read exactly like this Jon Miltimore idiot. I wish I could remember more details--but I do know that the individual in question was a college dropout who had basically bounced around from marginal job to marginal job and somehow ended up at FEE. That seems to be how they find these people--I'm guessing that the pay is lousy and they prey on not-too-bright recent college grads or dropouts who have run out of options. I also noticed that Miltimore is affiliated with "Intellectual Takeout", which is a really lame project run out of the Center for the American Experiment, a regional right-wing "think" tank in MN. "Takeout" exists basically to provide prefabbed term papers with right-wing themes which lazy students can copy in order to "pwn" their supposedly Marxist professors. However, colleges now use sophisticated anti-cheating software, and this is a really great way to get blackballed from higher ed by being expelled for plagiarism.
Not sure about what definition of slovenly they're working on, but I'm pretty sure taking so many downers that you need to be put in a medically induced coma in Russia is a good indicator of slovenliness.
Advice from peterson? Marx wouldn't even ask that fool for money.
low effort bait
