There's so much room!
There's so much room!
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The worst part is that there really is a lot of habitable land but it would require employers to make a big push for remote jobs (wink wink federal and provincial governments)
Sure winter is colder up north but even 50km North of the major city centers the land is empty...
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Or the government could just build trains out to there.
I saw a picture of a train station in China that had been built in the middle of nowhere. Stairs from the subway leading up onto a grassy field. The Americans all laughed at China for it. Then I saw a picture of that same train station five years later. It was in the middle of a metropolis. China has so much housing that there are entire cities sitting empty. Now, if a country with two billion people can manage that, Canada has no excuse.
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I would look up "Tofu Dregs" before applauding China...
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I would think twice before repeating things I think I know about China from a picture I saw on the Internet
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Yes, a very real city with very real residents, and definitely not a mostly-unfinished facade designed to keep the real estate bubble from popping. /sNo wait, it's just an example of a station not in the middle of nowhere.
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Wait 10 and see if it hasn't collapsed by then.
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Then I saw a picture of that same train station five years later. It was in the middle of a metropolis. China has so much housing that there are entire cities sitting empty.
When an entire city is sitting empty, there won't be scandals over, say, stolen concrete and other embezzlement meaning that buildings are less reliable than they should be, maybe lacking elevators while having them on paper, or plumbing, or heating, or what not, or the city plan being impractical for the actual situation of many people living there (bottlenecks for transport and pedestrians alike or something like that).
Also the place where it's been built may just not be feasible to live in.
People in the West are very gullible to fairy tales, like calling a despotic cleptocratic bureaucracy "meritocracy" and expecting it to lack the downsides of what they are used to without lacking the advantages.
But this
The Americans all laughed at China for it.
was, of course, wrong. Even if the state does nothing about it except selling land and permits for construction, a working train station in some place allowing to get to a big city reasonably fast would very soon mean lots of life around it.
It's human, some things decay, other things take their place to decay later, and so on.
It's not as much about names and political ideologies as it is about power of various groups and principles.
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I mean, there's lots of land for the cities to continue sprawling into as well, at least in the west, not to mention tear-downs and brownfields for infill. The bottleneck is actually just building stuff.
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Sure, but we need to have people on our territory as well... And let's be realistic, most people want space and it's beneficial to people's mental health to not be stuck in super dense living conditions... More small cities with all services available would be a great thing (I'm saying that as a person living in a small city of 7k with all services available).
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Once global warming is finished, you just wait.
Canada's going to be laughing at the rest of the world in their tropical paradise. All those beaches.
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This is how we get right-wing patriots to care about global warming. 'not only will Canada still be bigger than us, they'll have better resorts'
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I'm still waiting for global warming to turn Puget Sound into Southern California.
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We just have wait for the last forests to burn down.
Cough any day now cough. Why do my eyes burn?
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With the way climate change is going, we may soon have access to the virgin lands up north. RIP, but also yay, but also RIP...
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https://cdn.britannica.com/98/180898-050-234CB039/Map-extent-Canadian-Shield-North-America-mass.jpg
This big ass rock is in the way. Makes digging deep a big issue
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Edmonton (that moderate city on the western side, just past the rockies) gets to -50°C in the dead of winter for about two weeks.
Some years we get snow for 5-6 months (global warming is fixing that) .
You move more north if you want to. Im fucking good
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Edmonton is the farthest north you can go in the western hemisphere while still having over 1 million people, and yet we still have people that complain about the winters ¯(ツ)_/¯ Also we hit +40C/104F last month so that was fun.
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I know. I had to buy a new AC. It was hell.
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Wow, HOT 🔥🔥🔥
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At least Calgary gets chinooks (as much as they suck for migraines) for a mild reprieve
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And it's not like it's gonna get better.
You'll get more forest fires and draughts in summer and then, maybe, only -30 in winter.
Moving up north in Canada is, unfortunately, not a solution.
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With climate change, it's not a solution..... Yet
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Pfft, what housing crisis?
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Look at all that fertile land, the Aussies are so silly
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It’s literally greener than the rest of the map, stupid fucking upside downers
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The scribbled out Tasmania is pretty funny.
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I miss r/MapsWithoutTasmania! Thanks for appreciating the bit 😂
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This is the land of cobra chickens.
We deeply respect the limits they impose on us.
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Don't forget about the mosquitoes in those bits of the country that are nearly the same size as the cobra chickens
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And a hundred times hangrier, yeah…
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It'll be warm soon enough! Keep not eating the rich!
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A lot of that is warmer or equal to Edmonton
We could settle a lot more but it deflates housing values and takes money/business away from the places that are settled
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Let's be honest, what is Canada doing with all that land though?
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In my experience, using it as a dumping ground for anti-social alcoholics
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Why would you say that about Edmonton?
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It's full of bugs and terrible soil, also looks bigger than it is due to map distortions
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That's a globe on the image, no?
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Don't forget no growing season. That's the real reason white people never showed up in force.
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Hopefully nothing. Hopefully they continue to fuck off and let nature exist unraped up there.
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Too late, plastic rain.
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Mostly nothing. Canada got it because nobody else wanted it.
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big toast!!
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They all want to live in Torranto.
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And vanchoover
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It's wild to me how empty Canada is
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the us is kind of like this too
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I thought this was mostly a Mercator projection joke with a tiny amount of weather joke, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus.
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A couple more election cycles and it'll be inhabitable.
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I've been fishing and hiking in some of those areas. It was July or August and we had snow flurries a couple of mornings
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Why is there a big ring of 50+ people per km/sq all around Canada?
It's an old tradition that they don't like discussing with outsiders.
It's okay, I'm actually Canadian, please tell me.
(even if you suspect that I'm lying, it would be impolite to accuse me of that)
As is tradition.
It's for the greater good.
That's the Night's Watch.
Untapped infinite hog supply in the ocean
You ever heard of soudi arabias "the line"? Turns out they stole it from canada
I live inside that ring. Bought a 5 bedroom house for around $100k 3ish years ago. Been putting some work into it, hoping to sell in a couple years to move even deeper into the ring.
The biggest problem is employment. I got lucky and landed a great job that pays well. The second problem is cost of food as it highly depends on location. If I drive an hour south or east, I can reduce my food costs by around 30%. Not everyone has that ability because of the bigger problem. Gas price is the 3rd biggest problem, we're on average 20-30C more per liter than outside the ring.
Then there's the actual places. So many have very poorly run municipal governments that are full of the dumbest motherfuckers around who sink entire budgets into poorly thought out capital projects and raise taxes for decades after. Poor tax enforcement so that there are many properties with years in outstanding tax debt that doesn't get collected, which leads to even larger budget shortfalls and more tax increases. Every now and then I'll see a tax sale listed for $20k+ because the owner died and no remaining family could afford to claim the property because it the outstanding tax debt.
This is why I want to move into the bush where I have no neighbours, because at least the miniscule tax burden is less of a slap in the face when I look outside and see nothing coming back from it.