11mo ago

A nightly Waymo robotaxi parking lot honkfest is waking San Francisco neighbors

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11mo ago

A nightly Waymo robotaxi parking lot honkfest is waking San Francisco neighbors

www.theverge.com /2024/8/11/24218134/waymo-parking-lot-livestream-honking-4am-san-francisco

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Could barely sleep, literally heard it in my dreams.
I do think that there's an argument that maybe apartment buildings should be required to list some kind of sound isolation metrics.
- I wonder if Colorado has required this because I know when I was looking at apartments about 11 years ago they told us the decibel reduction of the windows and doors in the apartments we looked at that were near highways. And then a few years later in 2016 when we were house shopping they told us the sound reduction for the houses that were near major roads. I’ll have to look it up and see if it’s a law or not.
  
  I don't think I'd want to live anywhere it is necessary to worry about sounds reduction levels. Wow.
- Doesn't help in summer...
- Yep. It's part of their mating ritual. You can learn more about it at c/fuckcars.
Shocker, self driving “taxi” service is a nuisance.
Almost like the solution to car based issues isn’t “more advanced cars”, but “less cars”.
Video from the story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CN8k831Qp0
Super easy to solve. Just seta geofence of no hooting. There's a good reason they hoot in the first place, but it's not needed in that lot.
My super white family is a honkfest. This is just whining because "robotaxis bad". The sirens here in SF are much worse than this.
- But when the lot starts to fill up (which “usually happens at 4AM or so,” according to Tung) what looks like a maddening ballet of autonomous parking — and honking — begins. The noise goes for as much as an hour at a time before it settles down, she said.
  Did you read the article? Because that sounds really egregious.
  
  Yes, but that just describes the video if you're playing it up. Also, firetruck sirens go all night as well.
- Looking forward to the "Waymo robotaxis become silent killers stalking the night" headlines once the fix is implemented.
- US sirens are too high pitched. European sirens have a lower pitch which allows the sound to travel further which allows them to decrease the volume.
The article itself sounds a lot more relaxed than the heading suggests.
Nonetheless, this is still stuff for c/fuckcars
Reminds me of the incident in February where a waymo tried to get through a bunch of street revelers, and their response was to set it on fire. From the old pcmag story :
San Francisco Fire Chief Jeanine Nicholson noted that it had tallied 55 incidents where self-driving vehicles had interfered with rescue operations in the city.
Edit: unrelated to above quote, pc mag also says:
In some cases, residents have put orange cones on the hoods of cars, which makes them temporarily immobile.
(see also the autopian story it references)
Some of the videos of this are really frustrating to watch. Like, what are you trying to do!? You just found your spot, now you're coming back out?? More circling, stopping, going back, going forward. Uughghhh..
- My guess is you're seeing the computer go into a reject loop until a human operator finally takes over.

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