Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds
Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds
Khelif’s dominant showing will only inflame the debate over whether she should be allowed to compete at the Paris Olympics.
Boxer loses fight, conservatives pretend to care about women or womens’ sports and lose their minds. Same song, different day.
Imagine. All the horrible, tragic, and important things happening in the world and what you all choose to (pretend to) care about is the chromosomal makeup of Olympic boxers.
Also the boxer isn't even trans. The article says she grew up female and her parents discouraged her from getting into boxing as a kid because it was seen as a masculine sport. It seems like she only discovered she has a Y chromosome once she joined a boxing league that checked the chromosomes of boxers. The Olympics don't have rules regarding chromosomes of athletes so she's allowed to compete.
@ImplyingImplications @originalfrozenbanana Finally, somebody here is getting to the root of the discussion.
Does #ImaneKhelif have a Y chromosome? Maybe she is #intersex or something. At first I thought she just might have above average #testosterone or was juicing.
I am no fan of men competing against women but I feel like if she was #trans, she would have either said something about it, or someone from her past would have.
@ImplyingImplications @originalfrozenbanana
people who justify men beating up women simply don't belong in civilized society. outside of election results that beggar belief, it's easy to just decide these shills aren't real - like the bots we see that forget to change the language, or the paid astroturf accounts.
OMG did you hear about project 2025? women will be men's property? uh, no, you're thinking of the olympics. the opening ceremony was mentall illness, this is just more of hte same.
Anything thing to deflect attention away from their geriatric convicted felon candidate and his project 2025.
@DarkDecay @originalfrozenbanana
great contribution, faggot retard. you're not even factually correct with the talking points provided to by the liberal lady cock you suck.
@DarkDecay @originalfrozenbanana Y'all supported #JoeBiden and he would be convicted for having classified documents if he wasn't so old that his brain has stopped working properly. Being geriatric is something #BlueAnon has no problem with, in actuality.
Hey faggot are really okay with dudes beating the shit of women?
When they are in mens spaces like boxing yes
@originalfrozenbanana @Amoxtli
it's a MAN punching a WOMAN in the face. but of course didn't take long for the "but AYECKSHUALLY" chorus to crawl out from whatever holes they hide in. go ahead, tell us all why this is great for anyone outside of the depraved child-raping lizard people who run these institutions?
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She’s not a man. Either you think everyone with XY chromosomes is a man, even if they have female genitals, or you acknowledge that neither genitals nor chromosomes alone are sufficient to define gender and you acknowledge that trans people exist as their identified gender. You don’t get it both ways.
Sorry I forgot for a second where I was and just wasted all that energy typing out something you won’t read because your side doesn’t care about the truth.
Woah hold on. I have been informed Angela Carini has 5 fights under her belt. How is somebody with 5 fights in the Olympics? That's why she lost, she had no business being there. This has nothing to do with gender or sex, it was about experience and skill.
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Thank you for your input friend, but where did I say I thought men fighting women is ok?
What I did say was that I thought for the Olympics, which is ostensibly supposed to be for elete level athletes, it makes no sense to put someone with 5 fights in their career up against someone with 50. That Italian woman was the Jamaican bobsled team of boxing.
I think I understand your point about the testing though. Fun fact: you know who else was all about regulating people based on genetics? Rudolph Hess and the rest of the nazi crew. Hess said that Nazism was "applied biology" and what with all the people talking about biology this and biology that I see those ideas haven't died out.
This circles back to why we sexual sports leagues to being with.
If a xy athlete has a statistical advantage over a xx athlete, do we care?
If we don't care then we setup one league regardless of genders.
If we do care, then we segment the groups and have multiple leagues.
the IOC is going to have to come out with a clear mission statement and define the purpose of their parallel leagues. I think there will be lots of debate as people are mixing gender identity vs chromosomes and developmental hormones. I don't envy the IOC officials
I feel like their plan is to just keep avoiding the discussion until something bad happens or we hit a flashpoint moment of some sort, and that's going to be bad for everyone except the IOC because they can say they were 'forced to take action' and wash their hands of it.
I hate where we're at but I get their reasoning, I don't see any fair solution here, they're all unfair.
I do kind of respect their approach. We're just going to go by what's on the passport.
Kind of kicking in the can, but let other countries work it out
The reason for women's leagues is to encourage women to join and enjoy the sport. Hard to enjoy a sport when the opponents demolish you every time. Thus, women's leagues are closed to men, but men's leagues are open to women.
@Kaboom TBF I love gaming and I suck at it. But I guess most people aren't like that.
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@Amoxtli There is no proof that #ImaneKhelif is even #trans lol
Fascists down vote truth.
@AncientFutureNow I'm really glad I hedged at the time, turns out she's most likely intersex.
I'm probably someone you'd call a "fascist" because I'm voting for #Trump, but you can't just be a mere reactionary with out basing your arguments in fact at least. Like, going off about men being in womens' sports over this incident makes zero sense when you don't even know if this person is a man or not!
She's intersex apparently, and produces much more testosterone than a ciswoman does
@Kaboom General consensus seems to be that she has #SwyerSyndrome, with #XY chromosomes but male reproductive organs, but I haven't seen that strongly confirmed as of yet