The GOP needs to convince voters that Donald Trump and JD Vance are regular guys, and, manifestly, they are not.
The GOP needs to convince voters that Donald Trump and JD Vance are regular guys, and, manifestly, they are not.
It would be strange for Democrats to attack the Republican presidential ticket for being “weird” if it weren’t true. But those men are getting weirder by the day.
Former president Donald Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (Ohio), is off to a wobbly start. A Harris 2024 campaign email sent on Friday was headlined, “JD Vance Is a Creep (Who Wants to Ban Abortion Nationwide).” The statement continued, “JD Vance is weird. Voters know it – Vance is the most unpopular VP pick in decades.”
It was bad enough when footage resurfaced of a 2021 interview in which Vance called Democrats “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made.” Things got worse last week when Vance offered a non-apology, blaming “people” for “focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance of what I actually said.”
Uh, okay, but that doesn’t help at all. The substance — which Vance said he stands by — is asserting that adults without children do not deserve an equal say in the nation’s affairs. Another unearthed clip of Vance showed him arguing that parents, when they vote, should be able to cast an extra ballot for each child in their family who is under voting age. He didn’t take that back, either, going only so far as to claim it was a “thought experiment” and not a firm policy position.
It's quite easy to explain. Republicans have retreated into their own media bubble, where they can mold their own reality based on "alternative facts". Their end goal is to project their reality onto the world and give it substance. In this bubble world, Donald Trump is the Alpha Male, and JD Vance is the everyman who speaks for the people.
Outside this bubble, though, Trump is a narcissist and criminal, and JD Vance is severely out of touch. The only way to penetrate this bubble is to shove the truth through it until it pops. Sometimes, calling things as they are doesn't get through the bubble, because it immediately puts people on the defensive about their choices. But call them weird? They might agree something a little weird is going on, and that might be just the opening to stick the truth in there.
I think this is why the Republicans seem weirdly upset by this line of attack. Call them fascists, they don't bat an eye. It's too complicated for their base to comprehend anyway, even if the would have had a problem with it. But call them out for being weird, and suddenly their base might stop for a moment and actually think: "Yeah, writing about fucking a sofa in your memoirs is a bit odd, isn't it?"
Oh hey. You're replying to that same guy who was mad that he had to read about Trump saying "you won't have to vote again" for 3 days. Because 3 days is too many.
I'm starting to think that guy is sensitive about ehat other people are saying about Republicans for some reason.
Got it. Yeah I never said anything like that. I think we should talk more about Trump's fascist statements if anything. In my client it still shows deleted comments, you just have to click an extra time to see the content.
Yeah I've never been outside before because I think the left should be better than this shit. I probably have never seen a woman naked too or something right
The right should be better than this shit, too, but here we are. Until the truth matters to them again, you have to attack them in ways that will actually work.
I'm not sure how much of that is the joke or how much Lemmy gives us a glimpse of Ohioans' attitudes. I visited Ohio recently and I came away thinking "good God this is basically Northern Florida!"
Edit: oh maybe you meant in Ohio by "here". If so, I'm wondering if you're in a city in Ohio.
I work in a factory in rural Ohio. I’ve been an Ohioan for most of my life. Yeah it’s basically Florida, but as it stands Senator Vance is being seen as increasingly clown shoes. I don’t think he’s going to shift Ohioan values, I think he’s going to be unable to maintain the enthusiasm necessary to hold his seat. Ohio is north Florida, except we were a swing state longer.
Correction: He didn't write about it in his book, but why if he has never made sweet love to a couch, has he not come forward to deny these sofa-fucking allegations?
Exactly. For the longest time Democrats have suffered from the "bumper sticker gap." Liberal and leftist positions are generally more complex, nuanced and tend to require a broader intellectual background than conservative positions. This means they aren't easily captured by sound bites, and that makes it much easier for conservatives to capture and control media narratives.
"Republicans are weird" closes that gap, and carries a whole lot of deeper context in the form of the obvious response - "why are Republicans weird?" Suddenly there's an inroad to engage with deeper policy conversations. And better yet, Republicans can't engage with the topic at all without having the same conversation - "we aren't weird because..."
Trump supporters just have small minds; it's why they have been conned by trump to begin with. Concepts such as "liberty" and "civil rights" are too complex to explain and champion to them. Instead they understand only primitive things, like "weird" and "ugly".
One of my favorite things to watch is to see Jordan Klepper or someone from TYT doing their man on the street thing and asking some of the more radical elements some rather basic, but pointed, questions.
These people are a product of that bubble you reference and you get to see the bubble popped in real time, although I don't think they are fully aware of what is happening.