C/politics@lemmy.world being US only is weird
C/politics@lemmy.world being US only is weird
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I guess it is a consequence of the Reddit migration where the habit is just keeping the old community name. But having C/Politics being US only on Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
Would have been cool to give up this assumption that everything is related to US by default when moving away from Reddit. I mean, even the canadian political news of Lemmy.ca is CanadaPolitics.
Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It's quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn't have its own instance. I've already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn't go anywhere.
It definitely should change its name to US Politics.
Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)... or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?
There's a rather large distinction there.
We love you Canada, but let's be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that's messed up.
US people are way too blind to the existence of the outside world. I'm sure they have no idea that Lemmy.World is not in the US. I'm not really sure what could be done about this other than making a new more broad politics community. I'd prefer the generic named community to be the one that is the most broad and then if you wanted only US politics to make a more specific community such as !USPolitics@lemmy.world.
I agree. on any other server it would already be questionable, but lemmy.world suggests international appeal. The default news should be world news, with each country heading their own channel.
Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
I never got the impression that this instance specifically aimed to be international. It always felt like the aim was to replace Reddit in whatever way that manifests itself. I never got the impression that every community needed to be equally inclusive of content from all countries.
As for !politics@lemmy.world, I think part of the problem is that changing the rule would result in very little change since
So it may be better to just keep the US users isolate where they are and create a new sub that would just be less dominated by those users.
I can see where you're coming from, however...Did you message the mods of /c/politics & ask if they might consider changing their display name to more clearly indicate their US focus? It's not ideal, but the display name is what's shown when searching for communities or seeing posts from them in local/all feeds, so it at least helps in that regard.
At the same time, as other comments point out, there are a number of other politics communities with a broader focus across other instances, so unlike Reddit, we can have a /c/politics in any number of other instances with different rules and without a US focus. In a weird way, it's almost better that the /c/politics here is US focused, as it encourages folks to post & discuss general politics (including the US) in other smaller instances.
Although, ultimately, this would come down to whether the admins would prefer such simply named communities to have a wider focus as their name suggests instead of a narrow focus as is happening here, but I haven't gotten the sense that the admins necessarily want to get that directly involved in community naming & creation tbh.
Another example: !law@lemmy.world
@hyorvenn the great thing about the fediverse is that you're not limited to lemmy.world
The politics@kbin.social doesn't have that rule. I posted about Zimbabwe politics the other day and they seemed fine with it.
Can we change the sub icon then? Since it's wearing an American flag hat thing?
Maybe the first rule for any topic regarding politics should be to mark your topic/thread with a specific country code right in the title (e.g. US/GB/DE etc.). Maybe even at the beginning of the title of the topic. Obviously that sounds like a hassle to enforce.
In principle I agree, I very much dislike reading headlines about US politicians doing this and that as if I'm supposed to care. It's always some sort of circle jerk for one side or the other.
There is always going to be a large US community in any global politics forum. That is not a problem. And other parts of the world (let's say any country in Europe) are never going to be as vocal about their local politics in comparison. Bringing some sort of self-enforced order to these posts could be nice.
Edit: To clarify, I wasn't commenting because I'm bitter about a community being dominantly US. I do not browse this community. It matters little to me what happens here. The thing I'm mildly annoyed by is headlines like "Republican/Democrat politician #837 does dumb thing #929" showing up on the front page.
I'm aware we could always block a community. Though I would prefer that would be some niche community like e.g "Missouri politics". The reason I stumbled upon this thread in the first place was because it was on the front page.
I mean, we did a whole song about it like 30 or 40 years ago, “We are the world…”.
It's not that every community on lemmy.world needs to be international. There are no rules that suggest that. It's first come, first serve unless you can convince the admins or mods of the community otherwise. I also do not think majority rules should apply here aside from a petition type approach where you can just show the mods there's a strong feeling. I don't think forcing anything is the approach. So unless you already talked to them and they said no and this is simply a petition approach as a second go, I don't know what you really want to happen aside from venting (which is also legitimate). But considering you're suggesting that things should change, I'm wary of the way in which you think these changes should be allowed to be affected.
I just had the idea of making the same post. It's misleading
There's a Canadian Politics community on Lemmy.World too. It's very small but that can change!
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Same issue on a few other c's - maybe we need to add "_nonUS" or "_US" to lemmy/c names, or wait until Lemmy adds something like flairs.
You could always sub to https://lemmy.world/c/news@kbin.social - kbin news magazine that has worldwide coverage
There's stuff that crosses boundaries though, especially when it comes to US news.
For example:
A US soldier crossed the border into North Korea and is now being held captive.
US news? World news? Both? Neither?
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I agree. US is not the only country in the world, and should not dictate a community like this. If Americans want to discuss politics they should make a com about that, and let the general /c/politics be international politics.
I thought the instance name was just a name and had no meaning in that way (being international or smth) About posting about other countries ..yeah O agree that is US centric but Lemmy is a niche..way smaller than reddit is (at least in my country) so is already hard to find people from other places and specially writing about things not US related. I don't mind if this community is all about US ..when people from other places start creating their own politics communities I'll just join them.
There is a world politics as well as other regional politics communities on our side bar. We suggest subscribing to one of those if your more interested in those arenas of political discussion.
They could change it so it's only news about world superpowers. Results would be the same though.
I get your point, but how else should the name be used?
Having a community for world-wide politics doesn't make a lot of sense, which is why US and EU politics split into two groups.
You can start your own comunity cant you?