Trump assassination attempt: More than a dozen guns found at suspected shooter's home
Trump assassination attempt: More than a dozen guns found at suspected shooter's home
Shrug... I always assume gun enthusiasts have a dozen or more. If you're going to have one or two, you may as well have a dozen. You can only pop one at a time anyway.
I know many folks don't like guns but since guns are allowed, it's worth understanding that collecting them and learning about them is a hobby just like any other.
All gun enthusiasts I know have many. And if I could be arsed going through the necessary paperwork of getting ownership permits (Not murican), I would as well.
Guns are like tattoos. If you're into them, you probably have a bunch.
I'm not what you'd call an "enthusiast", I just hunt. And between friends and relatives, you just kinda end up with extra shotguns and rifles. I give some to new hunters but it seems like the old relatives all get out of it and if they know you hunt, you end up with them
I read these stories about "lunatic gunman had a dozen firearms" and cue up look-away-meme.
I dunno, a friend of mine has a couple mp5s and you can definitely akimbo them. It's absurdly fun too
Worth keeping in mind the dude is 20 and lives with his parents. The vast majority of them probably aren't his. The economy isn't that good.
This is super, SUPER normal for this area. Seriously. This is like announcing the shooter had a dog and propane grill in the back yard.
This is super, SUPER normal for this area.
I mean, “more than a dozen” covers a lot of ground. Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal. 50? That’s weird.
Oh but you know NBC would say DOZENS! if there were 50.
Does that mean 15? Sure, that’s probably normal.
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Americans are weird.
13-23 guns. If there were 24 or more they'd have said a couple dozen or dozens
50 is not weird, it's just like any other hobby, and you can't shoot really more than 1 at a time accurately anyways.
In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.
It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.
They left out the part where his classmates used to refer to him as “the school shooter.”
As part of their investigation into what could have motivated Thomas Crooks to carry out the shooting, the FBI accessed his cellphone — but a preliminary analysis found the information was not helpful for investigators, a senior U.S. law enforcement official said.
The thing is, we legitimately can't believe them.
It may just be after the Vegas shooter they stopped saying they found motive if they're not gonna release the motive.
My guess is that the motive is the same as every school shooting, except that shooting at schools became too normie now.
And if there has to be shootings, I personally wouldn't mind replacing the usual targets to politicians instead of school kids.
Thoughts and prayers?....nah, this was a poohLahteetian! We need legislation pronto!
Yeah, that Vegas shooting dropped out of the news quickly. So did that theater shooting in Colorado.
I feel like my worry is that they have some valid salient arguments and then put something like: this is the only way to get on the news/protest anymore or I have no idea what, something that doesn't sound bad shit insane.
If someone wants a race war or something the news is all over it.
What were they expecting to find? A pile of Blåhaj? The Communist Manifesto?
*hoping to find, yes.
The headline is about the guns but the article section on Data is really interesting, especially if you don't know how they score potential voters for targeted messages.
Why are they still saying "suspected" shooter?
How much evidence does one need before they can definitely say something?
He was never convicted in a court of law. They are always "suspected ______" until they are "convicted _____". Since we don't try people posthumously (yet), they will never be convicted.
Colloquially, people will just stop saying that detail. But it's still there.
Yeah, I imagine once the investigation is closed, they'll stop using "suspected".
Fair point, makes sense. Thanks!
Breaking News: Man who used gun owns more than one gun.
Oh imagine the surprise! People with an unhealthy gun fetish have other mental issues, too!
Is that a lot? Kind of sounds like a lot.
Not really, a collection of 1 isn't really a collection is it?
Little bit of hunting experience here. Let's say I'm hunting a deer.
If I miss no big deal. The problems begin when the shot hits the deer but doesn't kill it. Their adrenaline sours the meat. And, one needs to chase it down to humanely kill it. No matter how hard I try I'll eventually miss and maim a deer.
I do two things preventatively: First, I don't take a shots without good chance of a one shot kill. Second, I'm always prepared ASAP to send the second round, and a third. My accuracy drops severely for the fourth in practice. So, I don't shoot a fourth outside of practice.
This shooter couldn't close the range for a better shot. He also wasn't prepared for a miss. The second round should be down range almost immediately, even on a bolt action and especially on a wisely chosen bolt action. He was a smidgeon of humility away from a greatly increased chance of success.
And, one needs to chase it down to humanely kill it.
I hate to be the one to point this out buuut there's an even more humane thing you could do. Y'know. Just saying.
If it's anything like where I grew up, the deer population is massive and actually benefits from controlled culling. Also venison is delicious, and I know some hunters will literally give the extra meat away since a single deer has a lot of it, oftentimes to food pantries.
Obligatory disclaimer: I'm leftist as fuck and actually prefer a low meat diet. But deer hunting does have benefits.
Beats industrial farming
Better than starvation or jumping in front of cars.
That's the guy's house? Wow! Man I love my life in this tiny 2000sqft house. Like how do you end up doing dumb shit when you're living the dream in a big ass garage shed like that?
He lived with his parents
My parents had a two bedroom for 6 people!
I'd be happy living with whoever if they let me have a big ass garage like that.
Yeah. His family was conservative and pro-2A. Whatever the narrative is here, it isn't a left-wing thing. The way the right has a fetish for guns, no one is surprised.
I'm not saying this guy is definitely a lefty, I don't think they have enough information to say anything with a lot of confidence yet.
He had a one time donation to Act Blue,which doesn't mean a lot, and he was a registered Republican, which also doesn't mean a ton either.There are plenty of 2A lefties that own guns too, a couple of my friends are darn near progressive (US progressive, not EU progressive) and own a decent number of rifles, shotguns, and pistols. Owning a gun or multiple guns does not automatically make you a right winger, at least not in America.
I don't pretend to know what this guy was thinking though. Just saying it's still early and we don't know a ton.
Yeah so what if he registered Republican and his classmates talk at length about how conservative he was? He's probably a communist because he supposedly gave $15 once to act blue /s
You know the fun thing about using nuance? It doesn't matter one red penny if Republicans aren't doing it too.
That wasn't him. That was a 70 year old guy from a different suburb with the same name. Stop spreading this misinformation.
Louder for those in the back.