JD Vance is going to be Trump's VP
JD Vance is going to be Trump's VP
The 39-year-old Ivy League graduate and Hillbilly Elegy author rose to prominence as a Trump critic, but has since become a self-styled MAGA warrior
the fake hillbilly motherfucker is gonna be one burger down the wrong pipe away from the presidency
we live in the bad timeline but at least it's funny
As president he's gonna have to wear suspenders and snap them anytime he wants to make a point
as long as he also talks like Foghorn Leghorn I'm willing to allow this
J.D. Vance is a former "Never-Trumper" who once called Trump "America's Hitler", served in Iraq as a marine, and tries to portray himself as a rust belt, conservative values guy.
He seems like an early 2000s conservative republican type to me as in bring back domestic manufacturing, isolationism, and "christian values" etc.
Notably anti-Ukraine, and fairly low on the warhawk scale as far as republicans go these days imo.
Seems like a "safe" pick for Trump, idk. Maybe they'll play up the "never trump reformist" angle and try to grab a bunch of moderates who don't want to vote for Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr.
Kamala harris is a "never bidener" who once called him out for racism and said that she believed tara reade....
None of this is real. It's all to sell books that end up in Goodwill's and then landfills
None of these people believe anything.
It was a debate!
Also Vance was only 30 when he was a never trumper lol
My parents are the Republicans that Democrats try and court (they will never vote democrat ofc), they don't really like trump but don't really hate him either , they fucking love JD Vance
tldr: it's Joever
The "Bring Back Domestic Manufacturing, isolationism" stuff was very much not part of early 2000's conservative republican politics. They were hyper-liberals on economics in a way that's not credible today and this was peak war on terror. His brand of politics is much closer to Trumpism than anything from the Bush era, and I'd argue its likely to be much more appealing to a broad base of people. This is pointing the way forward for the Republicans much more than the Pence pick was. Picking up the smart parts of Trump's populism without the personal baggage. The problem is it's completely superficial because these politicians are still beholden to the same elite donor base that has made everything the way it is. If they end up in power for any length of time they'll become deeply unpopular just like the third-way.
The VP pick has always been really indicative of the republicans, except for Paul Ryan. That one was just weird, but also they ate shit and lost so maybe thats why.
It seems to me Trump is going for a more "moderate" (very very relatively speaking) route this time around. It seems like he learned not to antagonize damn near every center of power in the country.
He's gonna win with a landslide.
I remember when my parents gave me his book as a 'regular conservative who gets it' when he was a never-trumper. I still regret humoring them and not explaining to them in detail how it would have more utility as low ply toilet paper.
Fucking lmao Peter Thiel is one fish delite-related asphyxiation away from the presidency.
Negative charisma. Hillbilly Elegy aged like shit (and it already was shit).
My sister went to see jd Vance speak at her college and there was going to be a meet and greet thing after the speech with cookies and juice. She ended up having to leave early and when she went to get a cookie she accidentally knocked the whole catering-sized box all over the floor. She tried to help the staff clean them up, but when she tried to throw them away they were like, "what are you doing? Those are still good?" and PUT THE FLOOR COOKIES BACK ON THE TABLE TO BE SERVED!
So I know for a fact that JD Vance has eaten floor cookies.
Man of the people tbh, 5 second rule.
Your sister is Larry David
I know someone who went to highschool with him. We talked about it when we were talking about what a pile of horseshit his book is (I'm also from the area). Not surprised he is a floor cookie enjoyer.
Sorry let me put that in his book's terms: "I'm YALE not surprised YALE he is a (from the holler) floor cookie enjoyer YALE."
If you want a good book about the area, btw, I really recommend Dreamland by Sam Quinones.
Five-Second Ruler
I'm surprised by this pick because I think Trump will get annoyed - perhaps very quickly - if Vance gets even a little too much attention. I'm not saying Vance is super charismatic or anything. But Pence was a smart pick for Trump because he was as interesting as a pile of wet paper towels.
Elegy yourself and everyone around you
I hate Peter Thiel so much
the message of his famous memoir was literally "the working class appalachians i grew up with are loser rednecks who will never amount to anything because they're worthless lazy fucks who blame all their problems on the system." not exaggerating, this is how he talks about his people:
No wonder Peter Thiel has been jerking him off.
The best thing Hillbilly Elegy did for me was get me into Trillbilly while looking for good critiques afterwards
"A naked druggie"
What Ed, do you bathe with your clothes on?
I can see the electoral rationale for this if you consider Vance as a way to try and plug some holes in Trump's public image for the campaign.
His USMC service means Trump can use him to distract from the 'suckers and losers' or lack of support from veterans attack line. Vance's whole hillbilly elegy working class hope shtick (yeah it's bullshit) counters Trump's NYC spoiled billionaire reality. The fact that Vance used to talk mad shit about Trump doesn't just mean that Trump can use him bending the knee as a sign of strength, but Vance can distance himself from those comments, especially after the shooting, and play into the whole unity and calmer rhetoric thing.
Plus I imagine it comes with an absolutely blank cheque from Peter Thiel and a lot more of silicon valley.
Doesn't Silicon Valley money tend to lean pretty heavily D? I wonder if the assassination was an organized attempt and now that it has failed deals are being made
From what I've seen reported and what I've heard from people I've worked with who either have been or still are in that world, including some serious big companies everyone knows, there's a bit of a split. Of course the biggest names give to everyone, but apparently a lot of 'socially peogressive' types are pretty hardcore libertarians who give heavily to Republicans for a lack of oversight, regulation, and of course tax and profit offshoring. Some of those definitely got colder feet about it while the Republicans were pulling tech CEOs into hearings to demand they ban criticism online, Chinese plots etc. But as Trump has indicated he'll be more hands off, the Dems have forced all sorts of faux-moderation these sites don't want to do or open up to, and the more right wing political lobby arm of silicon valley has got its shit together (think Ajit Pai fronting for a bunch of investors trying to force the firesale of TikTok or be banned for example) a lot more of that money is flowing Republican again compared to years past.
JD Vance sounds like a shady car dealership.
He sounds like he's about to sell me a refrigerator
Winner of the JD Vance Award
I know
is the more direct Republican counterpart of
but Vance gives off a very similar "grown in a vat and programmed to acquise to the highest bidder/biggest evil by adopting any affect or positions his
ownershandlersbackers want him to" kind of vibesIt's not even vibes, lol, he's explicitly owned by Peter Thiel.
So independent. Such outsider.
Better than Flynn imo
Peter Thiel is VP. Musk in shambles
blood boy two handshakes away from the presidency
Well, at least it was not some freaky, absolutely-unhinged, Neocon, nuclear warmonger (like Nikki Haley, John Bolton, or even Mike Pence).
However, Vance does seem to be quite anti-China. His selection likely represents a growing split within the US ruling class. One faction wants to "destroy Russia first, then attack China" (i.e. the pro-Biden faction). The other faction wants to "attack China now, then destroy Russia" (i.e. the pro-Trump faction). Both factions seek the same goal: US global domination.
Of course, both of these ruling class factions are arrogant, delusional morons. They could not successfully occupy Iraq and Afghanistan without bankrupting the US federal government. They definitely will not be able to defeat China and Russia.
There's two kinds of Terminators
Blue Terminators and Red Terminators
JD Vance, Vance refrigeration.
I thought his name sounded familiar.
Is this not going to alienates to his rural working class chud base? Do they not know who JD Vance is? Like is he not broadly known outside of his preferred fanbase and the communists who hate him?
Trillbillies Ep. 1 throwback.
I wasn't sure about Trump before, but with this JD VANCE pick he secured my vote. In fact I will vote for him 5 times. Suck it loony liberals!
Why does the absolutely shittiest thing keep happening?
Oh boy, Thiel acolytes.
Shoot out to the poster who prior to midterms was adamant, over a number of posts, that Vance would never win, because he was "too weird." Brother, you do not understand American politics!
To be fair being made vp and becoming president that way isn't really "winning" an election so much as getting appointed
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Trump and Vance are going to bond together so much over how much they both hate Trump's base.
the lotrificiation of the west (my new essay for fedcobin)
Since the election of meloni
Trump looking to actually do Trumpism(TM)?
You know it's bad because it's the most boring, predictable pick and a sure sign that Trump is losing his touch. Then again we might get to se JD humiliated and Pence'd.
someone takes another potshot and after passing through his other previously undamaged ear it takes down his VP
just dildos devance
Shit choice tbh
Damn, and I was hoping it would be someone fun, like Mike Lindell or Hulk Hogan.
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Next Trillbillies episode is going to be a banger