Fair warning to anyone considering Starfield. The performance of this game is absolute crap.

Everything I'm hearing about this game is exactly what I expected from it. Bland, soulless, empty, buggy as hell, terrible writing, etc.

I can't even enjoy being smug anymore, though. I don't like being smug now. It feels bad.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone is surprised by Bethesda being crappy anymore

If Fallout 76 and Redfall didn't convince anyone they're willing to publish absolutely unfinished gibberish, I don't know what will

The gaming industry treats their devs like shit and it shows

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This is part of the reason why I hate Nvidia's DLSS. It has made some devs lazier and they're like "just turn on DLSS"....

Why don't you optimize your game?

oh cool there's a reliable source on the seas for it already?

Bethesda, you fools why would I pay $69.99 for Fallout 4 in space when I can get it for free 24 hours after it releases. I will set my 1060 on fire but I will do it at no upfront cost

Starfield?

What's that?

The only Bethesda game I care about is Daggerfall 1996 for Windows 95

There are times I'm unhappy to be right about something I was being pessimistic about, I'll admit this isn't really one of those times

Bethesda and have had a massive ego problem for almost 2 decades now and they've been past their prime since before Oblivion, kinda hope they eat shit on this a bit

This game lets you "do everything" but it has giant mechs that aren't able to be piloted while Armored Core 6 just lets you pilot the giant mech and does that well, I know which I prefer

It's a Bethesda game, of course it runs like crap.

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It’s impressive how bad the performance is. I had to use AMD Adrenalin to limit it to 60fps to stop it from crashing immediately. Not that it was running higher than 20 at that point anyway.

All settings to lowest. Had to lower my monitor’s resolution to 1080p because the game doesn’t have a normal fullscreen option, only borderless, and no way to downscale.

After all of that it runs at a buttery 25-30fps looking worse than Skyrim which can run at 144 without a second thought. I genuinely don’t understand what the fuck they did, low settings look maybe equivalent to medium on Skyrim, a 12 year old game, while running so much worse.

My graphics card certainly isn’t the newest but there is absolutely no reason it shouldn’t be able to run any game coming out now at least on low.

when was the last time bethesda made an actually good game? not a template for modders, not a "it's good but," a genuinely quality game.

Playing a pirated copy at 60 fps on 5800x/3070 near max settings using the DLSS mod scaling 720p up to 1440p in 21:9. Maybe I have bad taste but I'm enjoying it a lot. Similar to Fallout 4 but with much better writing. Le capitalism in space. Takes itself pretty seriously.

So far I've been able to

Compared to Fallout 4 which consisted of "Go shoot these guys who are bad because they're bad guys", this is a breath of fresh air. The fact that you can talk to many enemies rather than kill on sight is very nice. The dialogue is revamped and speech checks are a series of luck-based dialogue choices that make it feel a lot less like "I think you should just give me everything for nothing in return"

Really this is all I've wanted in a Bethesda RPG. Compared to previous releases I'm comfortable saying that this is the most stable at launch so far. I'm a couple hours in and really haven't seen many bugs beyond animation glitches.

If you like Bethesda RPGs I fail to see how you wouldn't like this. Though the "$35 extra to play on labor day weekend" was scummy.

Cool thing is pirates get to play the game earlier than the paypigs who did not buy the overpriced Deluxe edition or whatever it is called. (This is not a call to publishers to Denuvo their games.)

I’m playing it at 1440p on a 2070 super and ryzen 5 3600, with 32gb ram. I haven’t touched any settings and it seems to be running great. Although i haven’t actually checked my frame count and I’m not very fps sensitive in the first place so I dunno

and just said that it's the game that has had the most QA ever put into it at Bethesda. ig if you add 4 people to the QA team it's a 5 person team atleast

That's some impressively bad performance.

Don't worry the community will fix it for them for free over the next two years.

3090 here with an ultra wide monitor and running on ultra preset, game runs fine for me 🤷‍♂️

Might be something to do with hardware. My friends have been getting 60-70, though Idk what hardware they have. Or drivers?

Yeah, it appears to have some issues with 2000/3000 series RTX cards. People with like GTX 970s are getting equal or better performance than 2080 Tis and shit.

Read an article on lemmy that intel cpus have a performance issue for that game!

Saw the GamersNexus vid on performance benchmarks across a variety of graphics cards and I think I'll wait for a while before playing Starfield. I think the biggest problem with most games is that they aim to wow graphically and completely forget to optimize for a variety of hardware, especially PC.

30fps on all the lowest settings on a 2070 with 64gb ram and an i9-12900K.

FUCK

that's way better than my rig
god damnit, i was hoping i could play the new bethesda game modding platform at potato quality ;_;

Meanwhile I'm getting slightly better performance than that with a decade old computer that's just below the minimum specs lmao.

supposedly its better on Radeon cards until they fuckin fix it, because god forbid they test this shit out before hand instead of just assuming all is good because they are running them on $5000 PCs.

From what I can gather it's both oddly GPU heavy and 2000/3000 series Nvidia cards are having a tough time, so you're in quite an unfortunate spot. Also is this with FSR? Cause that'd be a big oof

This is about the worst way to go about things. What’s a great game that you wouldn’t expect?

70 dollars for an ugly game that can't run right.

And has no FOV slider or texture options

Something performs badly at launch > people complain > eventually it gets fixed by devs or community > people forget and preorder the next version, or buy as soon as FOMO hits.

Unless it gets major press like 76, cyberpunk or no man sky, it won't matter much for the company, modern captalists don't think about the long run, they want a big bonus today, and don't give a shit if the company will be dead the next year.

Also, a lot of products have bad performance at launch, especially something that depends on optimizations that may not go well with different hardware. People can just calm down and wait for it to get stable.

My husband is playing it on a 3090 and whatever the 9th-generation i7 unlocked is, with the highest settings and FSR enabled, running on 1080p. 45fps in cities which is brutal. 70-80 in typical areas. Strangely, he just tried it on the lowest settings and experienced no change in FPS, and furthermore the CPU is at 100% (good on them for multithreading!), that suggests it's likely a CPU issue. Weird then that it's running so poorly on a 12th-gen i9, that should be ripping through it.

I do not understand why people try to play Bethesda games on launch. I mean, I don't understand why people play them at all, but I particularly don't understand why they play them on launch.

The year is 2784. What's left of humankind after the water wars, wildfires, rising sea levels, wet bulb events, and category 10 hurricanes of the past 700 years has managed to leave the solar system on a generation ship. The Elder Scrolls 14 has just come out after a tortured 36-year development cycle with 19 years dedicated to "rebuilding" the engine. It's a Microsoft Holodeck exclusive. You go in and the first NPC you see clips through a boulder and starts slowly sinking into the ground after clearing it while muttering to themselves about mudcrabs. The gamma setting is slightly off and there's no way to adjust it. You start to move forward and the world hitches as trees pop in mere meters before you in ultra-low LOD, slowly coming into full detail over a few seconds.

I'm never preordering a Bethesda hologame again.

The Todd Howard AI installed in your neutral implant chuckles quietly.

its performance in terms of being good is absolute shit as well as far as i'm seeing

Its so bad. Even on a 3090 I dread opening a menu

fair warning to anyone considering starfield: you can pirate the game :)

My brother told me it ran a lot better after moving it on his SSD

I know it sucks for some people, but this is definitely an AMD optimized game. And in the time I've spent playing it, other than some funny glitches and some lighting issues, it's ran smooth on my all AMD system.

I was really surprised. I'm used to trying to play a game, only to read on a steam forum that it doesn't play nice with AMD and there is no fix.

The writing and worldbuilding is probably AI and gutter tier liberal political takes anyway

probably

I guess it's true what the rest of lemmy says, hexbear really is full of retards.

OK for one LMAO at you just comparing a Bethesda game's performance to two From games' performance... like, those games are at a totally different scale and technical level, especially Armored Core lmfao it's like saying "Well wtf I get 400fps in Counter Strike and Team Fortress 2 so why doesnt Cyberpunk run at 400fps max settings?!?! Unoptimized trash!" And even then are you forgetting Elden Ring's launch? Absolute shit performance and stuttering mess, getting 40fps with multi-second freezing on my 2080 and 9700k, but that all got fixed up after a few months of patching and optimization.

That said, the performance of Starfield seems absolutely fine to me. I'm running a 3080ti and 12900k and I get a solid 60fps running 4k res, high-ultra with 75% render resolution and DLSS installed (oh and fov bumped to 110, it does make a significant fps difference).

When I run on my 1440p monitor with the same settings I get 90-110fps. Oh and these framerates are me sitting in the middle of New Atlantis, which so far has been the "worst" performing area for me.

The thing is, for the scale of the game and how good it looks, the performance is fine. It's not super fantastic, and yeah it could definitely benefit from some more optimizations, but it is far from the worst launch performance I've seen from a game.

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I can't even get it past the main menu - I click New Game and it crashes. I'm running on Linux, and there's some comments on protondb about needing a newer version of mesa which I probably won't go through the trouble to install.

So I'm playing a bit of Prey instead when I get tired of BG3.