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This argument is extremely disingenuous. The Republicans claim that a president has immunity unless investigated and impeached by Congress. And this is exactly what they are fruitlessly flailing around, trying to do. So this is not the gotcha the meme claims it is.
“A president of the United States must have full immunity, without which it would be impossible for him [or] her to properly function. Any mistake, even if well intended, would be met by almost certain indictment by the opposing party at term end.
“Even events that ‘cross the line’ must fall under total immunity, or it will be years of trauma trying to determine good from bad.”
Please always add the person who is quoted. These are Trump's words, while we are discussing what many Republicans are publicly claiming. Of course Trump wants to go way further.
4 years ago your distinction may be justified, but today trump does speak for the republican party. A significant part of them does support him and agrees with his views.
He is the person they all chose to represent themselves, so, yes, that is what the large majority of Repubs agree with.
There is no way in hell those are Trump's words. He couldn't write something that coherent, straightforward and understandable if his life depended on it. At least not anymore, as perhaps he was once more coherent.
Probably Steven Miller. Most of the coherent awful shit seems to come from that Nazi fucks brain nowadays. Pretty sure he's one of McConnell's horcruxes.
From criminal prosecution. Noone is arguing the POTUS can't be impeached. We shit on republicans for being ignorant and uninformed, but you're either being ignorant and uninformed or intentionally pedantic.
Seems like you are projecting a bit because you're either being ignorant and uninformed or intentionally pedantic. The Republicans made a farce of Trump's impeachment and chose to ignore treason for political purposes. A president who can't be criminally prosecuted could simply murder anyone who would vote to impeach them.
You aren't actually addressing my point. I agree with you that Republicans are pieces of shit and Trump is basically arguing that the POTUS could murder anyone they want while in office and the worst thing that can happen to them is that they be removed from office. Which is absolutely scary and another thing on the huge pile of reasons why no one should vote for him. But this doesn't change the fact that he's clearly talking about criminal prosecution after leaving office and not about impeachment. Because that's the context.
Don't worry, I don't expect you to admit you are wrong. I've been in enough of these types of conversations to understand that you're just as lost in your partisanship as Trump supporters and that you are immune to the facts. This place likes to pretend that's different from Reddit, which likes to pretend that it's different from Trump supporters, but the reality is that y'all share a shit ton in common. And I'm sure I do as well, but this is not one of those times. It's your time for that.
It's nice that you can admit you were wrong, I appreciate that.
Empty claim of a victory. Well done.
But with immunity, the president could simply assassinate anyone in congress who would vote to impeach
That's fine, they know a Dem wouldn't do that. When a Repub eventually does execute members of Congress, they assume they'll be spared.
Trump was impeached. Twice
He had two impeachment trials, and two acquittals, he was impeached twice and essentially found not guilty. Had he been found guilty in an impeachment trial that presumably would be the penalty to face compared to criminal charges. I am not arguing that it is a correct position, only that its the stated position.
It scares me for our future that you have so many downvotes for speaking openly and truthfully, while so many incorrect and nonsense takes are nothing but dozens of upvotes (ie Trump is barred from running because its his third term). That this platform seems to skew substantially more educated than most and seems to react this negatively to truth and positively to misinformation actually has me hoping I’m interacting with bots as the alternatives are scarier.
Maybe they should just take away the downvote . A lot of subreddits ended up doing that because the majority of visitors don't read the rules and blindly downvote anything that doesn't fit their narrative/beliefs/opinion/etc.. That was not the original intent on reddit and I'm assuming and hoping the same for lemmy. But who the fuck knows. I'm just some guy and it's the Wild West out here as this thing grows legs.