"Images of 'Saint Luigi Mangione, The patron saint of health care justice' have been making rounds on social media"
"Images of 'Saint Luigi Mangione, The patron saint of health care justice' have been making rounds on social media"
alt text: a manipulated image portraying the alleged killer/controversial folk hero re-envisioned as a saintly figure, wearing Christian religious garb with a sun-like halo shining behind his head
Source: someone said this image hit the front page on reddit before being "censored".
Apparent credit: @gedogfx (IG). Title source: "Inkl". đź’©posting for meme archival and commentary purposes.
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Holy cow, how long will this go on?
For me as a European, it feels like I'm observing some kind of weird tribe that just sacrificed one of their people to the gods and celebrating it for weeks....
That's really fucked up take on this. First, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty. Accordingly, he's very much alive and not "sacrificed". Also, you seem to mistake a wave of support (I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen) for celebrations. Also, by trying to ridicule the movement, you do propaganda for the establishment. So please get lost, troll.
he's very much alive and not "sacrificed"
The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes...
I'm totally on your side when it's about fixing your broken and also very expensive healthcare system... But I dunno... Maybe electing a president that supports your interests (instead of one that does the opposite) or going on the streets with Millions of others or a nation wide strike would actually change it...
And what exactly is the movement? Getting rid of more CEOs? I don't see any movement here. Maybe, I'm biased... I'd love to see a movement that actually leads to change, but I don't see it.
Well, I guess, I have to deal with a few more weaks of memes about this...
Best regards The troll
didn't we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
In fact, looking towards history, the only time we really had change for the better is when the working poor threatened the super rich
didn't we try the whole elect a president that would bring the change, like twice now?
yeah... some of you tried it.
But an actual majority voting for the Orange one instead of progress after progress after progress can also be interpreted like a part of your population wants a much worse healthcare system and/or is very stupid.
and/or is very stupid
Yes. We have a rigged system with propaganda and a poor educational system by design. This is very powerful and possibly unstoppable at this point. The main reasons our stupid populous vote against their own interests. They are stupid, but it's not necessarily their fault. Again, propaganda and education.
This is not an easy problem to solve. Mercing CEOs might be the only option... The whole voting and playing by "the rules" isn't working. The rich are getting richer, poor poorer, and corruption is becoming even more acceptable and in our faces.
If 50% of the population stop working for weeks, this should be a lot more effective than "mercing" anyone.
Yes, let us all just starve and get evicted. Most of us are barely scraping by while we are working 40+ hr weeks. Forfeiting our meager incomes simply isn’t an option if we want to, you know, survive.
Tell me, you really need unions without actually telling me...
If you think that going to jail because of "mercing" a CEO is the better solution...
I’m not sure if you realize this if you are outside the US, but debt in the country is at or near all time highs. Over 70% of people live paycheck to paycheck (some of those don’t have expenses fully covered, even), and roughly 10% are below the poverty line. Unfortunately, as much as many of us would like to strike, we don’t have the resources. A weeks long strike would mean many people couldn’t feed themselves or their children, or even afford basic necessities. The other issue is that many of those involved in all the MAGA nonsense will call for violence against protestors, even do things like drive a car through a crowd of them.
oh ya, I too forgot that black president existed. who in an act of pure bipartisan appeasement decided to create the Affordable Care Act that we have today instead
"There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and cartridge (or ammo). Please use in that order."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_boxes_of_liberty
They've all but taken the soap box, we have "free speech zones" to "safely" protest out of sight, and when we ignore those the media either doesn't cover it, or gives the most unflattering description, taking the side of corporations (see: Amazon strikes framed in "how will this affect your Christmas delivery. A.k.a: be mad at the employees)
They've taken the ballot box with Citizens United literally paving the way for what Elmo Muskrat is doing now: buying elections. We can't elect the people we'd want to elect.
They've taken the jury through the elimination of the teaching of the concept of jury nullification (but also doesn't apply in this specific situation) and have taken the Judiciary through ratfuckery (see: Mitch McTurtle refusing to seat any SCOTUS judges when it's a Democrat picking them)
So all we're left with is the "cartridge" or, ammo box.
They force this on us but "thankfully" at least some of us won't just let us keep getting steamrolled. :/
As to how this could be a "movement." It isn't. It's one person choosing the ammo box because like the rest of us he felt hopeless and took the only action he felt could achieve anything at all. (It did: see blue cross blue shield reversing their anesthesia charging plan right after the shooting) There was also the "renewal" of the conversation about healthcare which all but vanished. Check the "issues" from exit polling, healthcare barely showed up. Whenever healthcare was discussed previously it was in the framing of "people love their private insurance!" that being told to us by the media. Now the discussion is "maybe there's a larger issue if people from left to right are all supportive of what Luigi did."
Strikes only work against corporations when it's that corporation's staff striking, and those people seem to prefer to have a job over becoming unemployed
For America to elect a Parliament and President that would regulate the health industry such would have to be put forward by one side or the other. Perhaps this assassination will bring such regulation to the fore in future elections
The CEO is the one that got sacrificed to the gods with the hope that the system changes…
Moving the goalposts much? No one in support of Luigi would dream of considering that CEO mass murderer as "one of their people" as you put it. And since you know that, you absolutely did not mean that mass murdering shithead.
Is that wave of support outside social media?
Is that wave of support outside social media?
Are you reading comprehension challenged?
(I am afraid our filter bubble suggests there is more support than there is in the average DS citizen
Ooo I read OP's comment a bit different like maybe.. we (as a whole country, not any certain political party or movement) are sacrificing this CEO to relieve/ease our collective suffering at the hands of our shit healthcare system. It would be easier and much less heartache to just, y'know, fix the system but alas we are in a weird cult.
Everyone on lemmy celebrates the murder openly. This isn't "a wave of support" this is literally deification.
This isn't "a wave of support" this is literally deification.
I am sorry that's how you feel.
hate for a system that has abused its victims for decades runs deep.
expect it to continue at least, grow to encompass more saintly visages at most.
Unfortunately when you exploit the people of a place for too long they get backed into a corner and lash out.
That's a horrible take lmfao you miss the point completely. Get outta here troll
Fuck off then
Not quite, in America we always think of the sacrificed as belonging to the other tribe.