‘It’s not close’ - Israel committing genocide concludes Wikipedia ending editorial debate
‘It’s not close’ - Israel committing genocide concludes Wikipedia ending editorial debate
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Academic here - it's 100% genocide. More so, it's the worst kind of genocide, it's sanctioned genocide built upon conflating a people with their government.
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built upon conflating a people with their government.
Which makes those people in other parts of the world (myself included) inherently less safe.
In fact, if I could point to one single factor that has made Jews less safe in this world post-WWII, it would be Israel.
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Yup, most people of the Jewish faith are not the state of Israel. Much as most people of the Islamic faith are not terrorists. People mostly just want to lead comfortable lives.
It's a great case of A->B being misunderstood as A<->B to justify incredible shittiness.
I do sometimes wonder if I should write a paper full of examples suggesting that this really simple misunderstanding of logic is what drives the enshittification of humanity _
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Last I checked, the number of Jews in New York state alone and the number of Jews in Israel was pretty close to equal.
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I think that's the conflation - Jews in Israel and Jews in New York state fall into the set Jews. However the right wing supporters of Netenyahu's government are but a subset of the former.
A better comparison would be that the number of Jews in New York state was once close to the number of peaceful Palestinians and peaceful Israelis; meanwhile, the number of hardline genocidal Israelis was roughly equal to the number of Hamas terrorists. Those sets seem a better match, as they share more core categorical features.
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Israel is the best fucking recruitment tool antisemitism has.
Fuck Zionism, Fuck Empires
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This is a feature not a bug, similar to the “birthright” trips Jewish teens abroad get for free. “Birthright” is a propaganda trip that tries to get teenagers to make Israeli contacts and get them to want to “make Aaliyah” and move to Israel and make more babies for the IDF.
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Probably playing off of this part of the article:
"[...] I discarded the argument that scholars haven’t reached a conclusion on whether the Gaza genocide is really taking place”, Marshall wrote in his decision.
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Pretty much - most of us (scholars being a synonym for academics, a set I do belong to [lectureship in mathematics and statistics]) agree that bombing the homes of people into rubble and striking the camps they flee to is an intentional attempt to erase a cultural group.
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Your field of study is not directly relevant here (unless you work to figure out the death toll, maybe). However scholars that do study genocide do now seem to agree that the killing of Palestinians by Israel is a genocide.
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Indeed.
@joker@sh.itjust.works - moreso tactfully pointing out we must be aware of credential inflation and to avoid reliance on appeals to authority?
The naïve optimist in me wants the @HexesofVexes@lemmy.world of the world to keep on revealing their backgrounds as it adds to discussions for me. Disappointing that I should be more skeptical.
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Its a textbook case. They're not even trying to keep their motives secret.
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Well there is the genocide where many other nations turn a blind eye to ("oops sorry we did not see what was happening there") and then there is the genocide where multiple other nations actively support it while trying to look like they are slapping wrists ("bad Israel! bad Israel!" passes weapons under the table)
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Bait.
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Double bait.
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