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Oh look! We can make beneficial treaties with the EU without being a member! Yay brexit!

Edit: not /s

Pre-civilized societies didn’t let power-hungry individuals take over.

Pre-civilized societies were small.

The real question isn't whether bad actors exist. It's how we choose to deal with them. Do we build systems that make it harder for them to dominate others, or ones that practically roll out the red carpet?

This seems like a misunderstanding to me. The people don't build systems. The people are subjected to systems built by dominating bad actors.

I think it will be a slow, drawn out but painful decline.

Can I ask what's made you think that?

repeating you think our courts and legal system is fascist

That's not what I said. I said being a safe pair of hands in the UK legal system is close to fascism and then that the UK legal system is a tool of oppression and control a la fascism. Please don't put words in my mouth or misrepresent what I say.

that

Curious that you've referred to some "that" which implies a specific thing but all I said was the UK legal system in action which is very general. I wonder what the specific thing is in your mind.

You are out of your mind and extremely sheltered if you think that is anything even close to fascism.

I'd echo that back. If you think the UK legal system is any way just and not a tool of oppression and control (a la fascism) then you must be extremely sheltered.

Close to fascism, are you crazy?

Are you? Have you seen the UK legal system in action? ROFL

That's because the important bit is the "gave £330 million to Palantir" and not the "NHS data platform". Palantir execs are laughing, NHS managers are paying their mortgages, all is well. Where's the problem?

Having a legal system = fascist now

That's not what I said.

Being a safe pair of hands in the UK's legal system.. close to fascism. Starmer in particular, facism.

You do not advocate for total disarmament you advocate for gradual stepping down of reserves, because you might actually achieve that one.

This is something different from what you were talking about before. Before you said Corbyn proposed the UK disarming but here you're talking about everyone disarming which is a whole different kettle of fish.

getting rid of the nuclear weapons doesn't get rid of the perceived need

It sounds like, in fact, it was entirely workable but you just thought it was unwise. Unwise doesn't mean unworkable.

The UK essentially getting rid of all our nuclear weapons

How was that unworkable?

tack to fascism

Uhh.. Sir Starmer, ex-Director of Public Prosecutions cannot tack to facism because he's already there and has been since long before he came to power.

his stance on nuclear weapons while laudable, was totally unworkable in practise

What was his stance?

I don't think we can predict it

Ummm...

I believe the decline will happen in our lifetimes

....that's a prediction :-)

Here's mine:

First famine: 2028

World reaching half 2025 population: 2030/31

Year brexit becomes irrelevant: 2028

Again, I'm totally mystified about your focus on brexit.

This mis-allocation of innovative capacity isn't an accident.

It isn't mis-allocation, it's the correct allocation but those doing the allocating aren't the ones the author thinks they are.

It's the predictable outcome of allowing market forces alone to direct technological development.

Here's the essential flaw with this article: the people are not the ones with the power to allow or disallow. The author thinks that with the right number of votes, democratic institutions will correct the direction of technological development. This is not the case. Instead, those with power and money dictate the direction of technological development for their ends. Which includes ensuring the ineffectiveness of said democratic institutions.

It's the result of specific choices about how we organize our economy

It's not "our" economy.

What should I improve?

Your communication about what you're selling. You're selling hosting services. Please make that clear up front.

None of us can predict that

Sure we can. A prediction is stating what we think will happen, not stating what will happen.

It will be gradual, and we will suffer a painful decline long before other countries in mainland Europe

What do you mean by "long"?

it will be gradual rather than instantaneous

Of course it won't be "instantaneous" but I still can't see how brexit will have an impact. The people who experience the first famine will be the same ones who experience the death of billions. Brexit will mean nothing.

I'm curious, would you be willing to put some dates to your expectations?

1. Year of first famine.
2. Year that population reaches half of 2025 population.
3. Year that brexit ceases to be relevant to living people.

When we're facing food shortages around the world, the UK will suffer before others.

Firstly, this doesn't follow from what preceded it. States in the EU aren't the only states on the planet that export food.

Secondly, I think I see what you're trying to say: you think that as the planet slides into famine, the UK will be worse off compared to EU states in particular because during the slide into death, the slope will be ever so slightly steeper than some countries in the EU.