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So if the “system” is racist, then why are some of the highest ranks in the current U.S. administration staffed by POC?

The only people who are not bothered by being called a racist or bigot are actually those things. If I had to guess these people know I am not those things, but they just don’t like what I’ve said. My guess is that it’s probably .ml alt accounts.

How can I convince you I am not a bigot or racist?

I agree with all of that, I’ve said similar things myself. I think the problem is that globalism changed the equation, and that’s why you now have Indian Americans who are a core part of Trump’s admin.

If anti-racial people keep saying that the system is rigged against minorities, then rich minorities are always going to be used as counterexamples. Because that’s the reality now, the power structures favor the wealthy, regardless of race, gender, or any other characteristic.

People trying to protect DEI and CRT will just come across as out of touch with reality, and appear as wanting favoritism, especially as the population of poor whites is also growing. If democrats want to win more elections, they should put forth policies that are in the Nordic model so that they help everyone. If anti-racists and inclusive folks want to build a better future for minorities, they have to think outside of the CRT/DEI box because the system now is not unfavorable to minorities, only the poor.

You’re using these labels against me because you want to bully me into being quiet. Because unless someone expresses the same fanatical and extremist beliefs then they’re a bigot. You’re a bigot.

An academic field means that its work is to introduce ideas which can be made accessible at all levels of education. Like how math is taught at all levels.

CRT is an academic field, it’s not just a “college course”.

Educators were proposing to teach CRT concepts in middle school or younger before that idea got shot down.

DEI is fine by itself, but the CRT connection tainted it. But some of the climate justice aspects of DEI are troubling to some because they’re worried that it’s just another way to stop their country from achieving its goals.

Climate Justice & DEI Climate justice refers to the intersection of environmental concerns and social justice. It recognizes that the impacts of climate change disproportionately affect marginalized communities, including people of color, low-income individuals, and indigenous populations. Climate justice recognizes that these communities often face the greatest vulnerability to environmental hazards, lack access to resources and opportunities, and bear the brunt of environmental degradation caused by systemic inequalities. By addressing climate change through a lens of equity and inclusion, climate justice aims to ensure that the solutions to environmental challenges are fair, inclusive, and consider the needs and perspectives of all communities. It is closely related to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) as it acknowledges the interconnectedness of social and environmental issues, and seeks to promote fairness, empower marginalized voices, and dismantle systemic barriers in the pursuit of a sustainable and just future for all.

https://libguides.whitworth.edu/c.php?g=1327622

I think the issues facing any country are greater than just culture war issues. The culture war stuff is a huge distraction.

I think the problem people have with CRT is framing it to say only white people are favored by those systems. I don’t think the evidence supports that only white people are favored by the system on average, it seems only rich people are favored by these systems on average.

Misinformation and disinformation does exactly that right? It uses ideological lines to create polarization.

So, let’s say a democratic country favors pro-choice policies, but then has an influx of immigrants who are anti-abortion, and now that population is greater. That’s a change of values because the population shifted to a majority opinion which favors a different view point.

If a country has an idealized view of how it wants to be, then I think it’s fair to expect immigrants to integrate and assimilate. I don’t think that has anything to do with xenophobia or excluding different cultures, as long as the core values of a country are maintained. For example, if a country wants to maintain a democratic socialist society, and a greater population of capitalists immigrate to it, then I think that socialist society would want to restrict immigration as well.

None of that is bigoted, it’s just pointing out how democracies are fragile.

Nothing I wrote is bigoted, it’s just questioning why people should accept some policies when there are people who literally perform ideological warfare against other countries.

The whole anti-CRT and anti-DEI thing has become my cross to bear, apparently. The fact is that these concepts are not being used by people with the best intentions for preserving democracies. If I am being downvoted for pointing out that there are literally anti-democratic people who want authoritarian regimes of one kind or another, then that’s a problem in how people think. It doesn’t make me a bigot.

Edit, the second post you linked to is mine.

Thank you, I get that things are making people tense right now but there’s no need to lose hope. As mentioned, regardless of what someone may think of me based on their understanding of what I’ve posted (and let’s be honest, my posts are often lazily written and not explaining all the details bc they’re just casual), I know what side I would have fought on during WWII or during the U.S. civil war. Discussion is one thing, but when it’s do or die, it’s another.

I think the goal here is to bully me away from posting. But I won’t. You’re the ones who are bigoted.

Explain how I am a bigot, or else you’re basically accusing me of thought crimes like any authoritarian bigot.

The post I replied to specifically asked what someone had against those concepts, so I made my comment.

There’s this fervor going around that everyone against these policies is a Nazi, and that’s not the case.

What I got from reading those US military perspectives was that people need to be careful about trusting ideas that look one way on the surface, but have a different intent, so I shared that as a comment.

Except I am not right wing or transphobic. You’re judging me as such based on your understanding of what I am saying.

You’re just mad that someone else posts something you disagree with, that doesn’t mean that person is a bigot. I think you need to grow up.

Well, people who become fixed in their way of thinking is a danger of democracy, and why some are convinced that we need authoritarianism for society to keep functioning. I think maybe the issue is that I am just shitposting, but it’s giving someone else a bad mental health day.

Yes, and? What about that is bigoted?

Being against CRT doesn’t mean you’re against anti-discrimination, or giving people better outcomes. Being against DEI doesn’t mean you’re against diversity, equity or inclusion by themselves as concepts. The academics who framed CRT/DEI were some of the most anti-U.S. Marxists, and so I don’t trust their intentions.

Listen, I am not racist, homophobic or transphobic or anything which looks down on others. If the US ever came to a civil war, I know what side I am fighting on.

I am sorry you feel the need to follow me around lemmy and post these lies.

Edit here’s the post on crt and dei, what a shit show to be harassed by someone who just wants to make snap judgements https://lemmy.world/comment/14908431

But a lot of people answer along ideological lines on purpose. It saves you from being griefed by others who are just extremists and will call you bigot or whatever. That’s why people being polled will say whatever, and vote whatever makes sense to them. Then others are surprised by the outcome. Ideological extremism has killed people’s critical thinking capacities.