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  • Then they get a judge like Cannon.

    The problem is that the system also is of two minds on whether he's above the law. Shit's broken, and not because they can't fix it. If this happened in e.g. Germany, Trump would already be behind bars (long before he'd have run for pres in the first place), and GSG9 would be looking for people terrorizing juries.

  • Not even just the 30s, they argue the same, and use the same tactics as the far right parties. I'm from a country where that shit was everywhere, the weirdest thing that only sticks out is that they repeat certain words in their arguments that have no clear definition, they won't define either, and their objective is both to hollow that word out by diluting its meaning, and also weaponize it because you can't easily argue against something with shifting definition.

    Just look at how the US right wing uses "woke" and how these people use for example "escalation". Russia shoots you, it's explained away as "realpolitik", and just how things are, but if you dare shoot back, or if you give money to their victims, or if you call out their genocide, that's

    ESCALATION

    If you press them on the double standards, you get some genius answer back like "NATO is inherently escalatory", with no further explanation on why banding together against an aggressor to preserve everyone's peace is somehow "escalation" while publicly plotting attacks against all your European neighbours, or for example blowing up military bases as shown here is not done, if it's done by Russia.

    I'm not talking to them, I'm talking to you and people like you, because if this shit is pervasive without being challenged, people stop thinking critically and start mainlining the panels.

    If I didn't believe in the pervasiveness of human stupidity (and the GRU), I'd guess tankies are a right wing psyop from the CIA to discredit leftists by putting shit that fascists say in their mouth.

  • Denmark isn't bombing foreign soil, Ukraine is bombing the country that invaded them. If giving equipment to Ukraine would be equal to joining the war, we'd be at war with China and Iran. We are not.

    If Russia bombs Danish military targets, that is an unilateral attack from Russia towards Denmark, and if Denmark decides it wants to call NATO to war, either NATO goes to war, or they effectively dissolve. Which means that at the very least all countries that rely on NATO for their security - the Nordics and the Baltics for sure, Poland and most of Eastern Europe as well - have to go to war as if their own security is threatened, because it effectively is.

  • The only reason there is no war between NATO member states and Russia is NATO itself. If a NATO member gets attacked and NATO does not retaliate, NATO ceases to exist. If there is no NATO, there is no defence for the Baltics, no defence for Moldova, no defence for Poland, and no defence against the stated goal of Russia, the finlandization of the whole of Europe.

    A policy of retaliation against warmongers is a policy of promoting peace.

  • Well there is the convicted felon, rapist and wannabe dictatorial psychopath, there is the guy with the dead brainworms in his head, and there is the guy who you can vote for if you would like things to continue as they are.

    Oh, you can also choose between reluctant and enthusiastic support of genocide, and breaking up strikes versus shooting at protestors. Clearly the US is the citadel of democracy.

  • Genocide is not a crime that goes by the numbers. It's not about the number of children and civilians you killed. Those are just "regular" war crimes. Those are being committed by both of those countries, and arguably Israel is bigger on mass murder right now.

    Genocide is where you kill or displace people to erase their cultural or national identity. In that, they are committing the exact same crime. Genocide is not when you kill Ukrainians or Palestinians, but when you declare that they do not have a right to exist, and effect that with force. Bombing a Palestinian hospital or a Ukrainian one is "just" a crime against humanity, mass murder, war crime, goes against the Geneva Conventions.

    If you make one Palestinian leave Palestine, or take away one child from a Ukrainian family and raise them as Russian, so that there are less Palestinians / Ukrainians in the world, that's genocide.

    Both Russia and Israel are committing one single count of genocide each right now, with Israel committing a lot more murders, though Russia is trying their best too.

  • I don't think it's the Secret Service or the logistics of the thing that's the problem. They can just join the prison guards and work in their place in Trump's ward. They don't serve Trump, they serve the people. They can be Trump's prison guards as well as his protectors.

    The bigger problem is that I don't imagine G7 leaders would be keen to attend a summit at Rikers, or that Trump wouldn't cause a constitutional crisis every single minute deliberately.

  • It's not hawkish, it's the opposite. If there is no retaliation, then that signals that NATO is a joke, and bombing member states is fair game. If we don't shoot back, we lose our own protection, and we are much, much closer to war.

    Nobody wants a precedent where NATO is called into question. Remember when there was a stray Russian missile that went into Poland, and immediately half of NATO leadership was there, and it was quickly swept under a rug? If Poland pulled the trigger there, NATO would have went to war.

    The point is, Article 5 is not escalation, it's the status quo. If someone gets attacked, we all retaliate. Fucking that up would actually be a massive escalation against peace in Europe.