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How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • I had asked you guys to prove me wrong from the very first comment. Unfortunately, the answers I received are a bit unconvincing.

    Maybe the document you provide can change my world view, but I must take my time to read it first.

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • Gender is a social construct often upheld by patriarchal societal standards. The being of a man or a woman comes with many societal expectations, and quite a lot of people don’t agree with that.

    Do you mean "gender role"?

    Patriarchal societies often have different expectations for people of different biological sex. A Confucian society would expect a man to follow the Son of Heaven and a woman to follow her father or husband. This is gender role, and gender equality means the abolishment of gender roles.

    I don't think I can agree with conflating the concept of "gender" and "gender role".

    Now, I only want to comment on the gender aspect as I am sure that you, master observer that you are, can acknowledge stuff like intersex people existing, who are born with both sets of genitals for example.

    After some thought, I think I see your point. If one considers intersex a biological sex then their true gender should be separate from their sex. Is that what you were trying to convey?

    Now, gender as we know it now has evolved in capitalist societies

    Please tell me what the concept of gender was like in other societies. Be it Medieval Europe or Imperial China or whatever society you are familiar with.

    Non binary people, for example, have been around since the beginning of mankind and have even been acknowledged by historic societies.

    Please provide me documents. I may take my time to research them.

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • The difference being, If I was assigned “male” at birth and society categorized me as “boy/man” and treats me as boy/man but I don’t “feel” boy/man and would like to be treated as girl/woman, what will that society do?

    Transition, I guess. The Vietnamese society generally do not discriminate against transgenders. I'm not sure about Western societies. But I live in Vietnam, so it is the scope that I care about.

    We can accept transgender because we know that, after having transitioned, they cannot fake their feeling and gender identity to sexually harass people of different sex.

    The subject I was talking about was not specifically transgender, but the "72 genders". I generally accept that a man can transition into a woman and vice versa, but that still 2. If we add intersex people and people who are unfortunately lack features of either sex, that would be 4. But this number 4 refers to biological sex, it doesn't match 72 genders.

    that’s not being uncomfortable with “fickleness” that’s drifting into bigotry territory.

    The "fickleness" refers to [“I feel like a woman” today but next week telling you “I feel like a man”]. I don't think my society will ever accept that a person can identify as different genders in different time of days, even if we accept transgender.

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • Happiness and sadness are easy to comprehend because all humans experience it. Their biological mechanisms have also been studied and partially understood by science. "Gender feelings", not so much. Let put it this way: How can a biological male, who was never a female, know the feeling he feels is that of a woman?

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • What is "feeling like a man"? What is "feeling like a woman"? What is the biological mechanism that determine these feelings?

    I can observe a person who has near death experience telling me they met god. Should I take it as face value?

    A person telling you, “I feel like a woman” today but next week telling you “I feel like a man” is something that can be observed.

    I don't think my society is willing to accept such fickleness, even if we are willing to accept transgender.

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • "72 genders" is incomprehensible to me too, and I believe that it is incomprehensible and illogical to most people in the world who are not familiar with the West.

    The crux of the issue lies in the separation of the concept "gender" and "sex". Wheras "sex" is material and observable, "gender" (as defined by Western leftists[1]) is anything but. It is measured by having the person "identifies" themselves as one.

    But if a concept is not observable and not material, how is it different from a god? Should we, who adhere to dialectical materialism and scientific principals, see it as anything of worth?

    Or maybe I am wrong, maybe the fluid gender can be objectively measured as a material concept with observable effects. If you think I'm wrong, please explain.

    [1]: Western leftists are Westerners who identify themselves as leftists. They are not necessarily our comrade.

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  • It can deliver powerful anti communist propaganda and capitalist apologia disguised by the “word of god”.

    This is very true. I have never seen any cult that isn't anti-communist, be it Falun Gong, Unification Church, or others.

  • How socially conservative are China and Vietnam, and how can they realistically become more progressive?
  • I can't speak for China, only Vietnam.

    LGBTQ+

    When it comes to LGBT, we are generally quite indifferent to it. It is not our jobs to interfere in other people's business. That was my impression of our social attitude towards queer people.

    Legally speaking however, our laws are still behind in some aspects, such as not yet recognizing same-sex marriage, but it does not ban it either. Same-sex couples are allowed to held symbolic weddings as well as living together under the same roof. It's just that they won't enjoy the same legal rights and obligations as required for hetero couples. But fret not, our laws are getting more and more open, it was more open in the 201X than the 200X, and it will not doubt be more open in the future.

    Women rights

    The Communist Party of Vietnam in all its time of existence has been tirelessly advance women right and gender equality. I can confidently say that right now, I can feel no social discrimination between men and women. Women occupy just as many jobs as men do. In my household, my father and my mother are equal in decision making.

    Anti-racism

    I don't think racism is relevant to Vietnam.

    But we do have ethnic minorities (I am of Nùng ethnicity, while the overwhelming majority of Vietnamese population is of Kinh). Ethnic minorities often receive favorable aids from the government in term of poverty eradication and education.

    Respect for youth and elderly

    Our culture inherits Confucian elements, and our government encourages positive traits such as filial piety while discouraging negative traits that are no longer compatible with modern time and socialism.

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  • I think the Joker is an imaginary scapegoat. He is an attempt by the liberal entertainment at explaining away the evils of capitalism, by putting the blame at unrealistic "individuals with irrational minds" rather than realistic people in realistic circumstances.

    He is also a symbol of violent anarchism, through which the media obscure the true solution that is revolution and abolishment of capitalist institutions.

  • I am so tired of Youtube man, David Zhang's (Falun gong shill) contents keep showing on Youtube
  • This reminds me of my younger years, YouTube kept recommending me China Uncensored. They kept feeding me anti-China propaganda, I actually believed them, that the Chinese government is somehow oppressive. But then by the sheer absurdity of their lies, I began to doubt their words.

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