I keep thinking... nobody (that I know of) was mad when that one guy called the other the n word, and threatened to beat his ass, so he bashed his face in with a twisted tea. A woman gets slurred at and spits in a guy's face, and it's okay to hit her? Three times? She's not allowed to defend herself?
It's hypocritical. Either hate speech is violence or it's not.
(In case it's not clear, I may not have violence in me, but I fully believe twisted tea guy did the right thing.)
That (and that history of mental illness) make me think they should've put her in a mental institution. The woman is not well. The attention from this isn't going to fix it either, that's for sure.
I mean, there's video of her getting beaten on by a couple of men either earlier this year, or last year. She said before the whole knife incident that she'd kill the guy if he laid hands on her, because no one is going to ever do that to her again. "Never again" is something I've heard from many other survivors. This woman has a responsibility not to be around others who might trigger her (especially while she possesses a knife) but I feel like that's the survivor mantra.
And I feel like she's not getting grace that I would get in her position.
Now I love sharing what my fiance thinks when stuff like this happens, and his opinion is, she shouldn't have escalated it, she was wholly wrong, 15 years is dumb. It's hilarious that we have very different reasoning and the same conclusion.
I think if you were all up in someone's space screaming at them, there's a certain level of expected spit contact there just from talking, right?
Which is another reason you and I wouldn't be in this position. Gross!
But I do want to clarify I don't think she should be able to just like, walk away scot free from this. I just whole-heartedly disagree with people who want her dead. Or who think that fifteen years isn't a long enough sentence. Fifteen years is a long time. People are way too ready to discard people in this country.
He said video showed Hodges hurled slurs at Cruz, and that she only used the pocket knife — which she bought at a dollar store moments before the altercation, prosecutors claimed — after she felt threatened.
Hodges took off his jacket in the video, “the international symbol in New York City for ‘Let’s go, we’re going to fight,’ and rolls up his sleeves and hits her,'” Schuman told the court.
“While he’s still berating her, he called her a f—-t and a t—-y and she spit on him.”
So let me first say, I took that word for word, in the order you see it, from an earlier New York Post article. I hate giving them any attention, but the screenshot of a headline we're commenting on came from a blurb from the same website, as an 'update' to the article I linked. It really shows that ya'll didn't actually read anything, and are just commenting on other comments. They were at a bodega, where she allegedly cut in line. That's what started all this. She was supposed to 'get him fired' when he was off duty? You know how hard it is to get a postal worker fired?
So they're just two people at a bodega. She allegedly cut in line- I can't see her saying she did, or didn't, or where there was any reported camera footage. This dude starts screamin and cussin. She spits in his face. He hits her three times, she knifes him with the knife she just bought next door.
The fact that people are jumping to defend a guy hitting a woman for spitting in his face, because it's "escalating" and disrespectful, but ignoring that it was a response to escalating and disrespectful behavior, is ridiculous. You don't blame the guy who got knifed for yelling slurs first? You don't blame the guy for striking her after getting spit in the face? Why is she supposed to quietly and meekly accept this behavior when he can make her feel unsafe?
A man makes me feel unsafe and then hits me, three times! Three! I should absolutely knife him. I probably should've knifed him after the first time. (I'm kind of a big wimp so I don't think I'd be able to knife a guy, but I for sure would be right to defend myself.) And you know what? I'm a dumpy, middle-aged, short white woman. If a guy hits me even once and I knife him in self defense, and then say, "he deserved it," there are a lot of people who would be agreeing with me.
A very dear friend of mine got very sick and I saved her life. I mean this literally- I stopped by to check on her after work because I knew she wasn't feeling well, and being a trained first responder, I recognized that she was in danger and called 911.
Getting her stabilized took a few days. I dropped everything and cared for her son (caring for special needs son during day, working night shift at night). When she was finally able to return home I was so exhausted I handed off the helping-around-the-house phase to her ex-husband and slept for a few days.
Several months later, she finds out she needs surgery. I'm asking her about if she's made plans for her recovery and she keeps not answering me. I finally make an off-hand comment about how, since she won't talk to me about it, I was assuming her other friend must be handling it, and she says something about how since I didn't help her last time, she wasn't going to bother me this time.
In absolute shock, I answered in monotone all the things I did for her. I left. I didn't talk to her much again after that. We happened to cross paths and she hugged me and thanked me for saving her life... but the truth is, while I was hurt, I knew she was septic. I knew she could've forgotten what I did. I used it as an excuse.
I'm an educated person. The thing that put her in the hospital is very, very dangerous. It was a miracle she survived, but it's one of those things where most people are dead within a year.
She made it a year... and then died shortly after. I couldn't hide my lack of surprise when the news came. I can't say I was relieved? Just that I'd already grieved. I knew this was coming, so it was as if it had already happened.
Anybody reading this; one of the compounding factors in her death was her diabetes. It was often poorly managed. If you're in your 20s and not taking your metformin, if you're in your late 20s, or 30s, and not taking your insulin, I don't care what your excuses are. I don't care what your nonsense is. (If you're too poor, that's not an excuse. That's a good reason. Only those of you who are truly too impoverished are exempt from my speech.) If you aren't treating your diabetes, you are the reason you are going to die. Sooner than you think. You're going to die, it's going to hurt, and it's going to be your own fault. And for most of you, you're signing up your family or the people you care for to suffer, and for a long time before you finally die.
I'm not going to apologize for it. I'm so heartsick from watching perfectly preventable deaths from people who just can't be bothered. I hate seeing it coming a million miles away.
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This is so disgusting because she totally deserved to stab him in self defense. Getting hit three times necessitates self defense.
And I, a ciswoman, laugh when shit gets real because I have weird berserker blood or something. I can't control it, so if I'm going to stab someone in self defense, I would probably be laughing, too.
If I choose to have children, they'll be home-schooled, and their internet use will be entirely supervised until they're older. None of this, hand-a-toddler-a-tablet nonsense.
It's one of those old lines men trot out around other men. They exclaim that sex is their "biological imperative" to free themselves of responsibility for their desires. It's a get out of jail free card for being a reprobate.
We evolved to have an entire hierarchy of needs. These folks use those big brains of theirs (that we evolved to continue developing as children independent of our mothers specifically because we evolved to have these conversations) to obsess over sex, and to ascribe their value to that. That's their choice. But the rest of us have ascribed our value, our existence, and our legacy to mean many and varied things independent of reproductive capability.
My advice; don't try to understand things that will only make your worldview smaller.
This is a gross comment. Posting "people don't always choose what's good for them" under a post about women arguing that the trad wife lifestyle shouldn't be forced on them, reads as though you're defending forcing that lifestyle onto women if it's "good for them."
Eta: the fact that the person I'm replying to has been active on the fediverse since my reply but chosen not to refute my point makes me think I was right about the point they were trying to make.
They call us radical liberals for wanting to dismantle the chains of oppression and leave them dismantled. It would be impressive if it wasn't so stupid.
Love the petty bullshit of all your replies to me telling you off, which were correct, including links to the same comment where someone says I could've made my point clearer.
Congrats. You found one person who says your reading comprehension might be understandable, out of the entirety of the rest of the commenters here, who all tell you to stop with your bullshit crusade.... and your reaction is to passive-aggressively try and shoehorn their one comment into every single other thing you reply to me with.
I'm going to tell you, even though you refuse to listen- "engagement" isn't a metric of success. If 300 people tell you to shut up, that isn't 300 new friends. That's "you are wrong," writ large. And since you don't understand this either, on any of these other posts you make- people stopping replying to you also doesn't somehow make your points true. It just means you're more exhausting than entertaining.
This is to just to say, I'm done here. I'm going to go back to blissfully ignoring you until your next bullshit move to try and defend Leni, at which point I'll probably link whatever new folks are stumbling on your ongoing nonsense to this thread. Or any others. Goodbye. Enjoy your meaningless reply. I won't be answering it.
??? Mental Health Awareness Month is May. It's super easy to remember because of the alliteration.