fallowseed @ fallowseed @lemmy.world Posts 2Comments 277Joined 4 wk. ago
its just a casual suggestion, i am more curious about what it would look like- what it would do to promote a different behavior.. while the stuff about being singled out and targeted is something i've experienced- if i were truly thrown off by that tactic, i'd leave, but i don't see why this conversation must be about that and not the suggestion itself- do you think a system like that would work in the way i picture it? can you see any reason it would not work in a small testable environment? not looking for counseling, not trying to change the world to my preference, not on a crusade to punish people-- but it seems i'm easily caricatured as 'caring too much' or being 'weak/soft' in so many words.
well i'm not gonna go through your history to prove my point but you and i both know that was your sentiment in essence.
we all want to eat and have our pies, it makes perfect sense. every summer i pine for autumn, every winter, i am dying for spring
yeah, there's all sorts of interesting ways to take it- i'm sure they each have their own merits and pitfalls... i once dreamed of a social media site where you could only POST one thing per day :P what that would do to the quality and length and decisions related to topic... but that would promote more botting
that is sort of what my notion amounts to- it creates weighting-- doesn't prevent people from upvoting, but prevents them from obviously malicious downvote sprees. when you see someone with a lot of downvotes, it would mean something more.
twitter has something like this that hides you away until you're 'established' by reposting and following x users.. ostensibly to curb botting-- it feels shitty though and could drive a lot of users away.
well there's the implementation angle-- i would think one is a lot more complicated to put together than another- naturally i prefer my idea and you prefer yours, but there is elegance in simplicity and it could be a place to start- no reason both ideas can't be explored.
so if i were to post something in 'world news' but there is a very clear and decisive groupthink that doesn't allow different positions air to breathe, what then? again, that's 'WORLD' news
its not a huge issue, but its not a non-issue.. you don't have to be so black and white with your dismissives.
because you're a troll who thinks trump is out to genocide your gay daughter. - that was your response to my being critical of democrats for genocide... frankly, i don't trust you to be fair enough to engage with and you've been targeting me quite a bit.
oh i do... when anyone is allowed to target someone with a hundred downvotes, literally clicking through their post history to do so, just dilutes and damages the data / meaningfulness of those actions. believe that each instance has an interest in that data, whether you do or don't.
it would be an interesting environment to experience.. i'd be curious to see where people put their rarefied downvotes-- how they adjust their button pressing economy :P
except that it affects sorting and thus visibility-- it does matter, after all. it doesn't even have to be 2:1 you could go 1:1 and see folks who do nothing but downvote suddenly have to engage and support growth
by caveat i mean: there must be situations where your existence might become an existential threat to another's - in which case it is not so simple as an absolute. we put the cart in front of the horse by relying on ideologies handed to us without scrutinizing them.. speak up, yes- but that's what your opponents are doing when they vehemently disagree with you... hedge these outcomes by knowing better the complexities that underly your claims. godspeed
yep, takes all kinds.
'you're right to exist in anyway you find fitting' there must surely be some caveats here. 'and that applies to every one american' what about the rest of the world and other sovereign nations?
but i agree with you, yes it is very depressing and frustrating that every corner of the internet is being wrought into purity-testing echo chambers. understanding this might lead you to questions like: who benefits from this outcome?
anyway, i appreciate the work that went into this rant-- its a journey and i hope it was cathartic
for what its worth, i eat mostly downvotes and i am stronger for it. show your strength by keeping your head up and maintaining composure
he'll change his mind if a girl he likes tells him he stinks.. is it the 'because' he offers that upsets you or the smell he gives off?
306comments / 21days... about 14.5 comments per day- the bulk of them come from entrenched arguments and my addiction to receiving even more downvotes and baseless insults.
incidentally (or not) this underlines a deliberate function of trump's negotiation strategy-- to promote uncertainty which protects his position from precise scrutiny. this comes up in hypernormalisation a british docu as a deliberate part of putin's strategy- to keep your opponents always guessing.. its a form of obfuscation that we see in every day life when it comes to news media, social media, and so on- its a very common trick today and i think its as important as ever to get a handle on the material realities of the world under the cover of all this smoke.