in summer 2023, when I moved here from reddit, the lemmy instance beehaw.org was extremely divisive. they wanted to create a website according to certain rules rather than a free for all. some people were saying it would be the end of the threadiverse before it even began.

since that time, there have been various other intrinsic and extrinsic threats. I do not see much panicking about beehaw. did the threadiverse survive beehaw? or is this only a shell of what we might have had otherwise?

When I join threadiverse (summer 2023), soon everyone was talking about Threads and how it was about to destroy the whole thing.

Then nothing came of it and the whole convo kinda vanished.

Why didn't threads destroy threadiverse already?

On desktop kbin is 5x better than vanilla lemmy.

But on mobile I have several FLOSS lemmy clients. They all have their pros n cons. Their development is spread out with different projects. Work and the responsibility are distributed from the main lemmy maintainers.

The kbin webapp is pretty good, but not as good as a native client. There is of course only one.

My feeling is that designing for clients (having an API) imposes some kind of discipline on projects. Like you can't just do whatever willy nilly.

My other feeling is that kbin is setting up to be like iCloud whereas lemmy is more akin to sftp.

Thoughts?

When I Find-in-page for a term using ctrl+f or "find as you type" with "Highlight all" turned on, all results will appear highlighted. But then much of the time several seconds (variable) later it goes away, as though I had hit esc. If I hit ctrl+g for "find again" it starts again at the top. So current place in page is lost.

This happens even if I take my hands away from keyboard/mouse. It is not some kind of input I am doing.

Does this sound framiliar to anyone? Is there a way to make the "find" results stay found?

Or is there an add-on which reliably implements Find?

I have problem on multiple devices, for a long time, and with linux, windows and mac.

One of the extremely useful things about reddit was that content was somewhat organized by URL. Each post was created in a subreddit. So you could do websearch like keyword site:reddit.com/r/subreddit

This is more difficult/impossible on the threadiverse.

I am not sure to what extent it is configurable on either platform, but quickly looking I see URLs like this:

• lemmy: https://lemmyinstance.tld/post/0000000; no community/magazine context is present

• kbin: https://kbininstance.tld/m/magazinename/t/00000/the-title-of-the-post-is-optionally-included

I like the kbin way of doing this because it provides the possibility of searching as with reddit.

Are there any potential solutions to this problem? I haven't even mentioned various other hurdles inherent to the distributed nature of the fediverse content. So feel free to enumerate those.

I'm sure I'm not the only one to want this feature. What is the status of it?

Somebody who was previously active on the kbin codeberg repo has left that to make a fork of kbin called mbin.

repo: https://github.com/MbinOrg/mbin

In the readme it says:

> > > Important: Mbin is focused on what the community wants, pull requests can be merged by any repo member. Discussions take place on Matrix then consensus has to be reached by the community. If approved by the community, no additional reviews are required on the PR. It's built entirely on trust. > >

As a person who hangs around in repos but isn't a developer that sounds totally insane. Couldn't someone easily slip malicious, or just bad, code in? Like you could just describe one cool feature but make a PR of something totally different. Obviously that could happen to any project at any time but my understanding of "code review" is to at least have some due diligence.

I don't think I would want to use any kind of software with a dev structure like this. Is it a normal way of doing stuff?

Is there something I'm missing that explains how this is not wildly irresponsible?

As for "consensus" every generation must read the classic The Tyranny of Stuctureless. Written about the feminist movement but its wisdom applies to all movements with libertarian (in the positive sense) tendencies. Those who do not are condemned to a life of drama, not liberation.

I just learned:

https://github.com/ogham/exa the ls replacement has been replaced by https://github.com/eza-community/eza

the exa repo says:

> > > exa is unmaintained, use the fork eza instead. > (This repository isn’t archived because the only person with the rights to do so is unreachable). > >

For the curious, looks like the story, contributor deliberations and conversations are here: [Question] Is this project still being actively maintained? · Issue #1139 · ogham/exa

hope everyone involved is OK & on to other projects

both projects are MIT licensed and written in rust.

I just learned:

https://github.com/ogham/exa the ls replacement has been replaced by https://github.com/eza-community/eza

the exa repo says:

> > > exa is unmaintained, use the fork eza instead. > (This repository isn’t archived because the only person with the rights to do so is unreachable). > >

I didn't read it all, but for the curious, looks like the story is here: [Question] Is this project still being actively maintained? · Issue #1139 · ogham/exa

hope everyone involved is OK, on to other projects

I just learned:

https://github.com/ogham/exa the ls replacement has been replaced by https://github.com/eza-community/eza

the exa repo says:

> > > exa is unmaintained, use the fork eza instead. > (This repository isn’t archived because the only person with the rights to do so is unreachable). > >

I didn't read it all, but for the curious, looks like the story is here: [Question] Is this project still being actively maintained? · Issue #1139 · ogham/exa

hope everyone involved is OK, on to other projects

I'd like a keyboard shortcut to act in the same way as the toobar button "show sidebars":

• If the sidebar is open, it hides it

• If the sidebar is closed, it opens to the last used sidebar

This page, Keyboard shortcuts - Perform common Firefox tasks quickly only describes how to toggle individual sidebars. History, bookmarks etc. So depending what is open you have to use unique shortcuts.

Is it possible?

I \<3 FF but they are really stingy about the keyboard shortcuts.

Secure a place in history. Create the source material for hundreds of journalists, bloggers and shitposters writing about the downfall of reddit and the rise of the threadiverse. (also missing!)

At some point, there will be some sort of drama involving kbin. It could be constructive drama or not; who knows.

When it happens, whatever it is, lots of people will direct themselves to wikipedia to learn about what this website is. We all know wikipedia can be very influential. Even in the absence of drama.

Links:

• Firefox
• Chrome
• Edge - v1.2.3 is still being approved, you can grab the release from Github if you are eager
• Opera: Still under review, please download from Chrome webstore or Github release.

For questions / support: https://lemmy.ca/c/instance\_assistant (alternate: lemmy.ca/c/instance\_assistant)

What’s new?

(read on the wiki)

• You can now customize the instance list to match which instances you actually use. This should be helpful for those that have accounts on different instances.
• Added a settings page so that you can turn off features that you don’t want active
• Added buttons for helpful tools that let you explore Lemmy/Kbin communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com).
• Added a sidebar for those that prefer it (works on Firefox, Chrome & Opera; Edge doesn’t have sidebars yet but the code is there)
• Fix for issues with the search trigger on the community not found page (thank-you to whqwert!)
• Various bugfixes, small theme changes, and improved wording

What’s coming up?

(read on the wiki)

• Working with the amazing /u/howdy@thesimplecorner.org to bring over features from the LemmyTools Userscript¹
• Integrating lemmyverse.net and search-lemmy.com so you can do everything right on your community page²
• Adding icons and simplifying the design, as the UI is getting wordy
• Adding support for alternative home instances (ex. Alexandrite - Issue 14)
• Ability to have multiple ‘home instances’, so you can open it in any without having to change your home instance each time.
• Finishing the setup so that people can contribute translations / other languages to the extension.
• Getting the extension on Opera (no immediate plans, but this would be good to have)

More details:

1. /u/howdy@thesimplecorner.org has created a really useful userscript that you can find here: https://kbin.social/search?q=lemmytools@thesimplecorner.org (alternate: thesimplecorner.org/c/lemmytools). We’re going to be working together to bring those features into Instance Assistant, so that you can have all the features in one place.
2. Right now there are buttons to explore Lemmy/Kbin communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com). Both of these take you to the respective webpages. Instead, it might be nicer to have a lightweight version right on the Lemmy/Kbin community page (or in the extension popup/sidebar). This should be possible using their APIs/data access, and I have a little working proof of concept already (see GitHub)

I’m new, what is this? ==========

Instance Assistant is a browser extension that started out as a way to quickly jump from one community to the version on your home instance, so that you could subscribe/participate immediately. Since then, a few other features have been implemented:

Features

• Redirect to your home instance:

  • Buttons will be added to the sidebar of any Lemmy or Kbin community you visit, which will let you open the same community on your home instance.

• Open links in home instance:

  • Right click context menu will allow you to open any links in your home instance

• Improved Error Pages:

  • ‘Community not found’ pages now have better information, a button to trigger a fetch, a button to open a community in the source instance, and more.

• Customizable popup & sidebar menus:

  • Customizable list of instances to let you quickly switch home instances. This is great for if you have multiple accounts on different instances.
  • There are also buttons for helpful tools that let you search for communities (with lemmyverse.net), and search across Lemmy sites (with search-lemmy.com).

• Settings:

  • You can change the default behaviour of the extension, customize the popup & sidebar menus, and turn off features you don’t want to use.

I can't believe how fast this addon was developed into something that is super useful.

A month ago I made a list of all the available addons to address this need. There were I think 4-5 of them and I actually didn't end up using any of them because they were too simple and didn't add much for my usecase.

In the intervening days (days!) this project has really fleshed out. I am impressed that you've managed to make an interface that makes sense. I wasn't sure if that would be possible because it is kind of an inherently complex situation.

And on top of that, it works. There are issues with federation which are network wide and not much you can do about that. But as much as the threadiverse is willing to cooperate, this addon smooths the experience.

Thanks, I really appreciate this.

I am not sure what is correct to put in kbin-core/issues without cluttering it up with somewhat speculative requests. I have no idea how to implement this or whether it is possible. So I will post here?

This is a response to issue \#635 - Editor support for autocompletion when a user types /m/, /c/, /u/, or @

@garrettw said:

> > > After all of this I'm left with the distinct impression that a standardized link format is needed across the fediverse for any fediverse content. > >

I keep wishing for UUIDs or hashes or an internal link shortener or permalink something.

These are the same post on different instances:

• https://fedia.io/m/firefox/t/132144 \<- this is the instance where the community lives
• https://lebowski.social/post/12337 \<- this is the poster's home instance
• https://kbin.social/m/firefox@fedia.io/t/237162
• https://beehaw.org/post/6759290

It would be nice if it would have a unique ID like e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 across the \*verse. I can't be the first person to think of this right? Why is ity either not a good idea, or not a viable idea?

I imagine 2 variations. I am not attached to any of the particulars... Just spitballing. What do you think?

1. /local/uuid ----------

/local/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 - this link would bring the user to the post on the instance where you are viewing it.

So if someone writes in a comment:

``` check out this post!

```

and you are viewing it on beehaw, it renders like this:

``` <p>check out <a href="https://beehaw.org/post/6759290">this post</a>!</p>

```

if you are viewing it on kbin.social, it renders like this:

``` <p>check out <a href="https://kbin.social/m/firefox@fedia.io/t/237162">this post</a>!</p>

```

2. /orig/uuid ----------

On the other hand we need a way to link to the particular item as it appears "originally". To do this, you could write:

``` check out this post!

```

And irrespective of where you are looking at it, it will render like this:

``` <p>check out <a href="https://fedia.io/m/firefox/t/132144">this post</a>!</p>

```

I am not 100% sure if the correct behaviour for this is to link to the community home instance or the poster's home instance? I went with community home but maybe there is argument for the other way, or for both.

Im sure theyre going to find the perfect mods

I would like to suggest that developers consider as much flexibility when trying to interact with links/handles from off-instance and off-kbin (e.g. lemmy) as possible. I would like for it to work on lemmy in a similar fashion.

I think that the various "incorrect" ways of doing things should work as redirects assuming this would not cause a technical problem. It could even explain the correct way of doing things if you'd like to discourage it.

Non exhaustive examples:

communities

as an example: https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists

search kbin.social for https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists - finds occasions where people have mentioned the URL in comment/post

Most lemmy instances suggest searching for a group in a way that doesn't work:

search kbin.social for for !wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca - finds occasions where people have mentioned the handle in comment/post

you need to replace ! with @ to find it:

search kbin.social for for @wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca - works as expected

So the kbin.social URL is https://kbin.social/m/wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca

But what about variations a person could try based on principals of how things work e lsewhere:

https://kbin.social/m/@wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca

https://kbin.social/m/!wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca

even allowing use of the /c/ instead of the /m/?

profiles

profiles have similar inconsistencies.

I can view this off-instance profile on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/u/@btschumy@mas.to

but if I try to drop my own username into the same structure, it doesn't work: https://kbin.social/u/@density@kbin.social

The only way to see my profile is (I think) https://kbin.social/u/density

Hope this all is intelligible.

/r/Firefox and /r/FirefoxCSS have both moved to fedia.io kbin instance.

from kbin.social I can access Firefox. But I can't access FirefoxCSS. I waited about 90 mins since first trying. Should I just wait longer or is there some other issue?

@Firefox@fedia.io fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/Firefox from kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/Firefox@fedia.io search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=Firefox%40fedia.io

@FirefoxCSS@fedia.io fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/FirefoxCSS kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/FirefoxCSS@fedia.io "404 Not found" search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=FirefoxCSS%40fedia.io "Empty"