A button lock knife is very popular. Many are well under $100. I'd recommend the CJRB Pyrite Alt for a blade shape more similar to a razor. if you want even smaller the Mini Pyrite Alt is a great 5th pocket carry. https://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?steel=AR-RPM9&style=Wharncliffe&usrsearch=pyrite&sortType=priceAs
FYI: BladeHQ appears to have sold out (edited the post to reflect the change)
With all the talk about Benchmade pricing, it's nice to find a good deal.
Looks like both BladeHQ and KnifeCenter are clearing out stock of the full-sized Benchmade Griptilian 551-BK for $100 and $110 respectively.
www.bladehq.com/item--Benchmade-Griptilian--6223
Edit: BladeHQ is sold out
www.knifecenter.com/item/BM551BKS30V
Edit: KnifeCenter is sold out
And full-sized is key here. This is not a small knife. 3.45" (8.76 cm) blade with an overall open length of 8.07" (20.5 cm). It's also 3.82 oz (108.3 g) which is more than 2 full sized Bugout knives.
But for $100 with S30V steel and very sturdy scales (even if it's not a full liner) this is a really good deal.
Ah! that's right, the steel is different between the two. Thanks for the reminder!
3V steel in a fixed blade is, hands down, my favorite steel. You can beat the heck out of it all day long and it comes back for more. Just wonderful stuff.
I've always wanted a Bailout with the green aluminum handle but they put that stupid glass breaker on the end, so then you have to buy a replacement backspacer for something that is already costly. Every once in a while you can find a used one where someone has done that for you but they get snapped up within literal seconds of posting.
The last time I looked all knives with visible locks on them have had the locks removed in the photos. I first discovered this when someone pointed me to the official Kizer store on aliexpress. I was looking for button locks and all the knives I knew had them were missing the buttons in the images. Those that have purchased from there said the knives arrived as expected (with locks) and they suspected it is some legal requirement that they don't show locking knives. But that's pure speculation based on very few data points.
On edge, it is just a bit too tall for the lid to close, unfortunately. At 45 deg you could get 3 in there though.
I realize lots of knives can do this trick but it still makes me happy:
(Sorry for the hyper-saturated orange color. Tried adjusting the white balance and the saturation a bit without turning the rest of the image into grayscale but looks like it wasn't enough adjustment.)
Curious: Where did you get a mini with big brother blue scales and hardware? Did you buy it through the custom shop?
not to give too many spoilers but: the jump in quality from the $5 ozark trail to the $10 duratech is impressive
I have both a Bugout and a mini Bugout and I love them both. But I don't treat them like I would a knife with full liners. The concerns about flexing scales are overblown IMHO as I would rather have something flex than snap when undergoing stress. I don't use mine for breaking down firewood or removing heavy-duty staples from lumber. This is not a knife I want to spend hours at a time using. It's worked well for food prep (not just dehydrated) and general/easy camp tasks. Both are great in shorts or swim trunks if down by the lake/river/swamp/bog (or whatever floats your boat in summer).
Benchmade has stuck with S30V when others have moved up the ladder a bit in performance. If the Bugout was rocking Magnacut then $180 would be justified but at this point S30V is rather middle-of-the-road from a competition standpoint. They must have purchased a warehouse full of the stuff years ago, I don't know.
I purchased both of mine on deep discount from stores clearing out stock and even then I've felt like I paid too much. Used gets you a better price but availability is hit-or-miss unless you go back to r/Knife_Swap where they, at times, seem to rain from the heavens.
Well, you know, if a disassembly post showed up here, I certainly would not complain.
I should have scrolled down further on the product page. I just realized the Duratech line is made by our good comrades at HANGZHOU GREAT STAR INDUSTRIAL CO.LTD
Remember that $9 folder with 8CR13MOV steel? They now make a crossbar locking version (with what appears to be better scales) and it's only $10.50 with coupon: https://www.amazon.com/DURATECH-Folding-Pocket-Stainless-Pocketclip/dp/B09T26HZGR
I don't even know what to say at this point. The opening mechanism is bonkers, the price even more so. And they go up to $770?? Makes Spyderco and Benchmade pricing seem perfectly reasonable.
Any thoughts on trying to round the heel away from its elliptical shape to get it to a more axis-lock flick? It wouldn't be perfect but maybe momentum would carry you through?
I'm a big fan of CJRB. Their knives hit a very nice price point and the QC on mine have been really good. I have a few (5? 6? I donno, don't ask me to count knives) of theirs and all have punched above their price point. I've had no issues with edge retention with their RPM9 steel but I've not done any systematic tests against D2. It certainly sharpens up nicely. They've had a bit of a runaway hit with their Pyrite and Pyrite-Alt models in the past year and half or so.
Happy Front Flipper Friday to all who celebrate.
Despite the fact that I tell myself I don't even really like front-flippers, they keep showing up at my house.
A true cry for help, I think.
Today's Front Flipper is the Ray Laconico designed, CJRB Ekko
This version has CJRB's budget powder steel AR-RPM9, 3.25" (8.26 cm) in length with green micarta scales. The micarta is very smooth and, depending on opening method, can feel a little slippery but I've not had any real issues.
Straight spine with a nice deep swedge ground out at the front.
Perfectly centered out of the box with really great action.
I like the fact that it's a sheepsfoot with a little bit of belly on it. I like the fact that you can easily spydie-flick it open (and are not forced to use the front flipper).
It's not an out-of-this world knife but a nice solid choice. I got it used, as I do most of my knives these days, and so the price was really good. Looking forward to putting this into the EDC rotation.
Here's a quick photo essay on what $9.99 will get you (currently $8.99 with coupon at amazon) from "DuraTech"
It came in a serviceable cardboard box and not just bubble wrap or anything like that. The pocket clip provides the retention inside the box. Added bonus inside the box: extra oil (I hope it's just oil) soaked into the cardboard: !image
The scales are very grippy and will probably tear up a pocket or two. Pocket clip is pretty decent deep carry. Screws and clip are not recessed. Right side-only. Also, I'll need to get another photo of it but the clip has a lateral bend in it that parallels the shape of the scales. Very odd looking.
Centering was slightly off but not bad (my photo is also off so it over-emphasizes the angle)
Grind is really good for a $10 knife. Even on both sides, no issues. 8CR13MOV steel but unknown hardness so we'll see how it holds up. Here it is with it's little protective sheath out of the box.
Everything was looking good but, of course, there is a catch. It is, after all, a $10 knife. Probably the worst detent I've ever seen. Getting the detent ball out of the hole gives you a click loud enough to be heard in the next room. I may have to try and capture it on video. The knife is almost impossible to open with the flipper tab and completely impossible to open with the thumb studs. Even if the detent was dialed in, the thumb studs are almost useless given how close they are to the scales. I might remove them entirely.
So, if you'd like a knife with a flipper tab and thumb studs that is actually two-hand open, this may be the knife for you!
I'm trying to remember if this was my first button lock knife. If it wasn't the first it was darn close. Picked up a used Civivi Altus back in June. I carried it for most of June but then had set it aside for other things.
In December I picked it up again after using it to improve my sharpening skills and it's been in my pocket, for the most part, ever since.
I have to apologize in advance for the low quality of the photos here. After dropping my phone through the ice while ice fishing recently I had to settle for a lesser phone with much lower camera quality.
Maybe if I had not purchased so many knives in 2023 I could afford a better phone? Such talk is madness and we will never think like that again.
The Altus, right out of the box, was a good fit in my hand. Handle length and shape is good and, while it appears a little boxy, doesn't feel that way.
The one issue I had was the pocket clip sat in a weird spot in my palm. So, this seemed like a good excuse to try out one of the replacement titanium clips that Civivi offers and it has made a world of difference.
I can't even notice it's there anymore.
The trade-off with the titanium clip is that it is no longer deep carry. But it's close enough and the way the back of the handle is shaped, it doesn't show up in your pocket in a very noticeable way.
The blade is 2.9" (7.37 cm) Nitro-V steel which, near as I can tell, is very similar to 14C28N. It's been a great steel for the money and takes a nice edge (as far as I my so-so sharpening skills are concerned). I've not had to sharpen it since but have stropped it several times. The flat grind is good but I do wish it had a bit of a hollow grind as food prep is not nearly as fun as with my classic Elementum.
The button lock on this has been fantastic. No issues at all (though again it was used so probably already worked in a bit) with lock-stick or weird deployment. Detent is well tuned as well and the drop-shut and flip open with the button is flawless. It makes a satisfying-sounding click in both directions.
It is not a small knife but it is not a large knife either. Even with the G10 scales and internal milling it somehow feels a bit heavier than similarly sized knives but it sits nicely at 3.11 oz. (88.3 g).
No comparison photos against other knives today, sorry.
Overall: If you like the blade shape and want to experience a good button lock, I recommend it. I've used it for food prep, fire prep (feathersticking pieces of fatwood), opening 40lb bags of bird seed, on plenty of boxes and zip-ties with excellent results. The only real issue with food prep is the same for every flat-ground knife: not as efficient a slicer. The other thing I'd mention is that current prices are at ~$73 US which feels too high. Maybe catch a sale or buy one used if you can.
What is up knife community! It's been a while, what with the chaos of the holidays, and then the chaos of work after the holidays and etc., etc.
I picked up a few knives over the holidays, some for the kids, some for me. The first of which is this KNAFS Lander 2!
For those who do not know, KNAFS was started by Ben Peterson, a former BladeHQ marketing/YouTuber/designer/other things guy. He first collaborated with WE/Civivi on the Banter and Baby Banter series of knives. (See previous post on one Baby Banter variant here
Ben was famous for his long drawn-out catch phrase "What Is Up Guys?!" that he would start all the BHQ videos with.
Fast forward a few years and Ben left BHQ and started his own knife company with a couple of his own designs. The first was (not surprisingly) the Lander.
The Lander is an interesting platform because it was designed, from go, to be something you could easily swap scales on. The knife does not have to be completely dissembled in order to change its appearance. And, amazingly, Ben released the detailed specs of the Lander scales, free, to the internet. If you have a 3D printer (or access to one) you can download the complete STL or STP files and print your own.
The original Lander is a liner lock and either D2 or 14C28N steel and OEM'd by QSP.
As is the way of things in the knife world, one Lander is not enough. And so, the Lander 2 was released in November 2023.
Using Keizer as the OEM, the Lander 2 is a crossbar locking knife with an S35VN blade. (Keizer calls their lock the Clutch Lock) which has 5 different adjustable points for both sets of springs on the lock, meaning you can adjust the spring tension simply by moving where it connects to the liners.
So we have a knife that is provides user-friendly customization in looks and in action.
Here it is in comparison to a couple other knives, first the Kershaw Heist (another crossbar lock discussed recently)
Similar in length but the Heist has a much thinner blade and is slightly thinner in body and lighter.
Here it is compared to a classic: the Civivi Elementum. This has been my user for some time now and the D2 has a slight patina but is blemish free for the most part. (Tape residue not withstanding)
I was losing the evening light, so I only got one image of the Lander 2 closed.
Usage so far: Pretty limited use by me since I got it. Mostly because I've been using other knives that I also picked up. This Lander 2 was used but barely so. I had to clean up the scales a bit and stropped the blade but other than that it looks brand new.
I buy used knives almost exclusively these days as the discounts can be quite good.
The action on the Clutch Lock is really really good. Buttery smooth right out of the box. But then again, it was used so the previous owner may have flipped it a lot? I'm not going to complain because it's really nice.
The thumbstuds and crossbar studs are well made and do not bite into the hand. The shape of the handle is, for my hand size, nicely formed. What use I've put it through has been pleasant. I wish the Lander 2 had a hollow grind instead of a flat grind but the slicing has been fine even without.
I didn't have it handy for photos but it reminds me a lot of the first version of the Civivi Elementum button lock (the one where the button was only method of deployment).
Because the knife was just released, there are not many 3rd party options for scales. A few have started showing up on Etsy that I've seen, so hopefully more soon.
Overall verdict: The crossbar lock (adjustable) and open format of the scales (awesome) makes this a very compelling choice. I would not have paid full retail price for it though, as there are a lot of other S35VN knives out there for much less. But if 3D printing or just having a lot of choice for how your knife looks is your thing, it's hard to find an easier solution than the Lander series.
(dear gods... what have I done? )
Some of you may remember my Weird Knife Wednesday post from a few months ago about the 2022 Walmart crossbar lock (hilariously called "shaft lock") knife. It was a first for Ozark Trail. Here's a link: https://lemmy.world/post/5850196
That knife came out of nowhere and many of the budget-oriented knife communities took notice. If your local Walmart had them, it wasn't for long because they were selling out. I bought 2 (and gave one away as a part of a white elephant gift).
Skip to 2023 and Walmart has released not one, not two, but three different crossbar locking knives for this holiday season. (more on that later).
For those who don't know, Ozark Trail is the Walmart in-house brand (the Amazon Essentials of the brick and mortar world) for many, many things. Including knives.
For $5-6 US, these are knives built to a very specific price point and it shows.
Enough talk, time for some photos:
As mentioned these are 2 of the 3 released this year for the holidays. You'll find these two, along with a few liner lock, frame lock, and fixed blades, in an end-cap or center-aisle display if your Walmart has them in.
The textured G10 (?) one at the top looks suspiciously like the Sencut Scepter (which, is par for the course for Ozark Trail "designers"). The second one, with the blue pivot ring does not look familiar but I'm assuming eagle-eyed readers know its inspiration.
It's hard to see in these photos both knives have deep-carry clips that extend past the back of the scales. These are very deep carry indeed.
The action on these knives is really bad. As if straight out of the factory they decided to take them to the beach and bury them all in sand before shipping them off. The crossbar on both grinds against the back of the knife. The spring tension on the bar is not as strong as last years model but could still use some work. I'm sure that they will break in, even if it takes a year. You can't really flip them open (without also throwing your wrist around wildly and looking like a lunatic) and you're mostly going to have to 2-hand shut them.
On the other hand: these were $5 each. So if you have to slow-roll them open, maybe that's not so bad?
I had mentioned a 3rd "shaft lock" knife that seems to be mostly available online, though I did find a few stores listing them as in stock (but I'm not driving further than I already have for these). It comes as a part of a 3-pack of knives and some other tools.
I'm blatantly lifting this image off the Walmart website:
I don't think I'm going to buy the pack though because, while only $5 each, buying a couple of these gets me into "real" knife territory (the aforementioned Sencut Scepter being a great knife for the money) and I'd rather buy more of those than more of these.
Should you buy these Ozark Trail knives? I would hope not. I made this sacrifice for you. Don't repeat my mistakes, learn from them.
NKD (well, week): The Kershaw Heist
This knife is a steal. There I said it. It's done. We can move on. No more puns from here on out. 😆
Earlier this year, Kershaw released their first crossbar locking knives. It would appear that the runaway winner of the 4 was the Iridium. It showed up in many reviews winning a lot of praise, and likely for good reasons. Kershaw knows how to build knives well and they appear to have knocked it out of the park with their version of the crossbar, which they call the "Duralock."
The Iridum is not really a knife for me though. With only a few exceptions, I'm not really into knives with scales made of metal. Too cold in the winter and too slippery in the summer.
When I saw the Heist, however...
IMHO, the Heist is what you get when you take a Benchmade Bugout and a Benchmade Freek and make a functional baby at 1/3 the cost. Hashtag KnifeBaby
I don't have a full-sized Freek, just the old-school Mini Freek but the comparison works, I think.
First off, the Heist is thin. As thin as the Bugout. Lightweight handles, but full-length liners so slightly heavier than the Bugout. The blade itself is far thinner than the Freek and thinner than even the Bugout thanks to the deeper swedge. So this is a very slicey knife indeed.
This is not a knife I would expect to be using for hours on end. Much like the Bugout, it's function is all about having a knife in the moment for quick needs without weighting you down. This is a knife I would not have a problem camping/hiking with at all.
Out of the box the knife did need a little breaking in. The action was a little slow but after a week of just handling it, it's just fine. The blade steel is D2 which helps keep the costs down. Kershaw is not a super budget brand though so at $50 it's on the higher end of D2 knives these days.
Pocket clip is great with the right amount of deep-carry for me. Scales are grippy but not aggressively so, and I don't feel like it's going to tear up the pocket.
Based on a week's worth of use, I would highly recommend this. The Duralock is well tuned, the knife sits in the hand comfortably for what it is, it's light, and best of all: it's not super expensive.
Recent discussions around purchasing knives got me thinking maybe a thread of online stores would be good. I'm going to assume that a lot of new-to-knives people are starting on Amazon which is often not the best place.
I'll list a few that I use or have experience with (and maybe some background). I have no affiliation with these places other than being a happy customer. None of the links or codes are going to make me money or give me free stuff. Just thought I would throw together some options for people who are new to knives.
My list is going to be US-centric. If you are not in the US and have recommendations, please add them here!
http://www.whitemountainknives.com One of my favorite retailers. Great prices, free shipping, and offers a variety of coupon codes for 10% off. Most of these are tied to individuals who get rewards for people using them. I use one that is, as far as I know, generic: WMK The site has a ton of stuff on sale (especially now).
http://www.indianaknives.com Small retailer in southern Indiana. Great, great customer service, excellent prices and free shipping. A more limited selection but often has 1 or 2 things that larger retailers sell out of quickly because this store flies under the radar.
http://www.knivesshipfree.com As the URL says: knives ship free! Lot of fixed blades, especially Bark River knives. Not a super limited selection of manufacturers but it feels like a very well curated list.
http://www.knifeworks.com Mentioned in a recent thread here. A ton of options and the exclusive home to Doug Ritter-designed knives (manufactured by Hogue). Used to have Benchmade under MSRP but I don't know if they still do that. $100 purchase requirement for free shipping.
https://www.knifecenter.com One of the OG stores. Huge selection, and fantastic YouTube presence. Their website allows you to filter searched by a ton of different options not found in many other stores. Tons of really cool Exclusives as well. $95 min purchase for free shipping.
http://www.bladehq.com For a long time a more commanding presence than KnifeCenter in social media but I think they've fallen back as maybe has their customer service. Always a ton of Exclusives especially all the "Dessert Warrior" options. Free shipping at $100.
Others I have limited experience with but are good:
http://www.smkw.com Smokey Mountain Knife Works
https://www.cutleryshoppe.com/ Another shop with a ton of exclusives. I got a exclusive ALOX SAX from them.
https://www.knivesplus.com If you want a customized Spyderco or Benchmade without going with a random person off Etsy or Ebay, these guys are great.
I know I left stores off the list (mostly for time) so fill in the gaps. Who have you purchased from that's been great?
I had posted on a FFF (Front Flipper Friday) that one of my go-to office carry knives was the CJRB Malieah. A great 5th pocket carry that is not worrisome to non-knife people and fits within the 2.5" blade length limit of the city where the company office resides.
I think the CJRB has been replace by the Civivi Baby Banter. At least, it seems to have been for the past 6 ot 7 visits.
The Baby Banter is even less worrisome to non-knife folks (some have said it is "cute" which I'm sure it bristles at).
The knife is my go-to for food slicing at work and (once cleaned) boxes, tape, or as in today: velcro cable straps so I could jerry-rigg a second wireless lavaliere mic receiver to a small video camera.
It's small and unassuming but has performed really well. If you're looking for a knife with those properties on the budget side, I highly recommend it.
As requested by @Nimrod@lemm.ee :
A day late and a dollar short as they say. So much for "Thursday." I tried to get this post up yesterday but the fates were against me.
I admit this is a bit of a stretch for Throw Back Thursday because I'm old and 2011 was, near as I can tell, last week.
At least I think 2011 is the right year because my Google-fu is weak today.
The CRKT Drifter has come in 2 major varients: G10 scales with a liner lock and stainless steel scales with a frame lock. I think this was introduced in 2011 but that could also be the liner lock version. If someone wants to correct me, operators are standing by.
This is one of only 2 frame locks I own and also one of only 2 combo blades I own. I own a lot of knives, so this might give you some indication as to what I think of frame locks and half-serrations... Edit: I just remembered that I have 3 other frame locks. So, I'm a complete idiot.
This knife was purchased in 2019 which was yesterday near as I can tell. It was a very early knife purchase and I had not yet figured out what I did and did not like. Another huge factor was the fact that BladeHQ was basically giving this away in the discontinued section for $15.
Aesthetically this is a good looking knife (IMHO). The matte grey and smooth lines go well with the polished blade. However, the reason the lines are smooth is because the pocket clip is single position, tip-down. The horror...the horror.
But, there's actually a clever trick here: the pocket clip also serves as the overtravel stop for the frame lock! Now, me not being a frame lock guy, maybe I'm just ignorant here, but that's not something I remember seeing on other knives. This photo is not of great quality due to the lighting I had to work with but you get the idea I think. So while it takes 3 screws to hold the clip down and while it's sort of obnoxious looking, it's also functional and I can respect that.
The combo blade, I figured out fairly quickly, is not for me. Give me a knife with full serrations or give me a plain edge blade but not both. It will fail to meet my needs for most things. But thankfully it only took $15 to sort that out.
If it's not for you, why keep it you ask? Well because it does remind me of the journey this silly hobby has taken me on but also because I don't get rid of anything and in all likelihood the authorities will find my body buried under a mountain of knife boxes years from now. So what's one more?
My previous two Throwback Thursday knives have been related to my time in the BSA as a Scout. Today's is no exception.
The Craftsman medium Stockman pattern, near as I can tell, was made by either Camillus or by Schrade for Sears. This one happens to be model 95223. I've not found any correlation between model numbers and manufacturing dates but that's ok in this case because I know the year this was made.
This knife was a gift from my maternal grandmother on a special day: the day I became an Eagle Scout. She had it engraved with the date, something you can just about see in the main photo.
It was always my grandmother's intent that the knife be used as a knife and not as just a gift. I was (and am) very proud of it and I have a fond memory of receiving it from her.
But unfortunately wear and tear was affecting the visibility of the engraving. I did not want to lose this, nor do I want to try and have the engraving deepened, So it has been sitting in a box for a long while. A few rust spots developed and it needs a bit of a cleaning and sharpening.
I'm kinda tired of it sitting unseen so I think a shadow box is in order this weekend. It gave a lot of service but hiding it away is not honoring the gift nor the giver.
Previously I posted about my first knife, which I received as a Cub Scout. (See link)
Here now is my second pocket knife: my Boy Scout knife.
This one has seen a lot more use, a lot more re-sharpening on whetstones, and has lived a good life. I remember when my dad got me the quick-release key chain which let me attach the knife to a belt loop for much easier access. I'm considering leaving the rust/patina alone as it does tell more of the history of the knife, but it could use a good dusting/cleaning.
In addition to all the monthly campouts, I took this knife with me to Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico and later to part of the Appalachian Trail (Maryland/Pennsylvania border).
It's been stashed away since I aged-out of Scouts as a youth and since re-joining as an adult leader, I've been carrying more modern locking knives, but this still has a special place in the collection.
I have no idea if Front Flipper Friday is a thing but here's the front-flipping Petrified Fish Mini Beluga with Gmascus scales.
Are there any rules against posting links to legit deals on knives here? I don't want this to turn into a spam-fest/moderation nightmare and maybe there should just be a separate community for deals, but I am curious of other's opinions.
