@frustbox @sam I mostly agree, you should always aim to only use ram and not swap with your system. That beeing said you can have swap usage in any kind of system and even if you have terabytes of ram there is still a valid point for having some swap because that's still better than a kernel panic. Also in desktop computers you can get 16-32GB RAm full while gaming and multitasking some stuff along.

@deepdive Yes this can get frustrating if you let it get to you. I‘m 25 years into this and all i learned is how to look stuff up and forgot the rest. I don‘t learn technologies, i try to reduce them to some basic knowledge so i can handle them well enough. Things change all the time and i‘m too lazy to keep track of all that stuff, docker is dead. Its especially true in my actual playground at work where we are using kubernetes. Some of the most complex and fast paced stuff i ever worked with.

@deepdive @witten I think the more you dig the more you find you could learn, probably like every other topic with enough people on it. If you want to keep it simple you mostly still have the chance to just use a little linux machine and put everything there the "old" way. For example: I spend some 3-4 months building a kubernetes stack for my homelab, getting everything to run perfectly, then scrapped everything to rewrite it again with a bit of ansible and a single machine because it justworks