TSG_Asmodeus (he, him) @ TSG_Asmodeus @lemmy.world

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You SERIOUSLY don't hear other people, do you? You don't see what's said to you, what's right in front of you? All you think about is what you want and how you can change what they say to meet it.

The mens lib movement, and the ridiculous attacks on women you voice don't help people like me, who were attacked, because you change the focus, from help for everyone, to pitting men against women. No woman's group ever blocked me access to care. Women don't vote conservative at the rate men do, and conservative's stop these groups from being made. The help I got was entirely from women volunteering their time and help. The people who tried to limit it, or change access, were men. The Conservative governments that remove funding for these programs are run by men, and voted for by men, and protected by men. The CEO's who sabotage funding for public resources so they can get more tax breaks are patriarchal. Are women there? Sure. Is it run by them? No.

Our entire political, economic, and social system set up to benefit 'masculine' efforts. Being raped by a woman is seen by this system as 'effeminate.'

The men who did eventually help me are hardcore left-wing socialists who understood, and spoke with me about how harmful the patriarchal system we all live under was to me, and others like me. We also spoke about the sheer damage the garbage people like you and your 'mens lib' movement has hurt us. Women didn't even have the right as human beings until recently. In our own societies we deny them bodily autonomy and the right to vote and the right to be people under the law. And then people like you come out and say it's all womens fault, and every time a woman speaks out about institutionally allowed sexual assault you scream from the rafters that men are hurt to, but NEVER when I asked for fucking help! NEVER when I was suffering! Only when women speak out, or someone talks about the FACT women are more likely to be assaulted, are assaulted more often, and the systems in place that allow it to happen, then you cowards come out and PRETEND TO PROTECT ME?!

FUCK. THAT.

You don't represent me, and people like you make me ashamed to be a man.

I'm a man, and I was assaulted when I was younger, and you are exactly why men don't come out about it. We look like whiny snivelling little children who try to pretend this is the fault of women while we live in a goddamn patriarchal society and have men at every step preventing the very care we need. A woman ran the support group I went to, a woman ran the shelter I had to stay in, a woman held my hand in the fucking hospital, and at every step men insulted me and laughed at me and asked if I was a fag, because they thought the woman was good looking. This absolute bullshit where you blame women like it's their fault they're attacked by men, like it's their fault for talking about it, the entire 'mens lib' movement is garbage and forces those of us who've been through assault to be represented by the worst our sex has to offer.

The best thing you could do to help men like me is to shut your goddamn mouth and at the very least leave us to the care of women, because they actually do seem to give a shit and at no time ever blamed 'all men' for what I went through.

Fuck your reductive bullshit, fuck ever being tricked by the wealthy into attacking women on their behalf, and I still hope you never go through what I did.

Do you not remember Harper? That man was/is despised outside of Canada almost as much as in it.

The current Lib government in Canada made some attempts, but the incoming Con government is going to double down on trade with the US when they get in. Poilivre is a wannabee strongman who wants abortion gone up here, and he'll just do whatever the US says, much as Harper did.

I feel like the statistical chances this is the only guy, even just in the USA itself with a 300 million plus population, capable and willing to do this would be insane. This was domino one, we're just waiting on the who/what domino two is.

tabernak

Non non, ta-bar-nak.

but it’s not a great triumph of the left wing. It’s a bare minimum.

You're shifting goalposts. You said "Yeah. I respect the Republicans for actually getting shit done, as evil as their goals are." and then claimed democrats don't get anything done.

Also here are some things the Democrats did; and I say this as a Canadian:

• Signing the 19th Amendment into law (for non Americans, this gave women the ability to vote)
• Social Security
• Medicaid
• National Industrial Recovery Act (8 hour work day, min wage, right to collective bargaining, paid overtime)
• Unemployment Benefits
• Civil Rights Act
• Voting Rights Act
• Fair Labor Standards Act (this was the end of Child Labour)
• F.E.M.A.
• Literally creating the Departments of Education, and Energy
• Family and Medical Leave Act
• National Voter Registration Act

And those are just the larger ones I thought of offhand, I'm sure there are more. Yet I'm also pretty sure most americans would agree that things like women voting, social security, medicaid, workers rights, civil rights, voting rights, ending child labour, etc, are pretty important things that were passed into law.

I guess it’s true what they say, being good is something anyone can do, but being evil requires actually being smart and driven.

Which sociopath told you this? I've never heard that saying in my entire life.

Non, c'est du français Québécois ;)

The Obama administration got the ACA passed, I don't know that I'd call that 'not getting shit done.'

Tabarnak.

You also have to keep in mind that both the police and military are "outsiders" to capitalists. They are often poor, and can side with the public. Capitalists rely on total obedience of the military and police, if that breaks, they're done.

The whole "seizing guns" thing is a red herring. One general strike and no amount of guns will matter, capitalists need constant, increasing wealth. To not just lower their money but stop incoming money is death to them. Imagine every port, airport, train station, service industry business, etc, all with no workers.

They can call all the cops and infantry they want, those same people will constantly be asked to kill friends and family. The ones willing to do so will decrease in number until the inevitable toppling of the governing body.

A (former) leader of Japan was killed with a makeshift weapon. Imagine CEOs trying to dine out when any person in the kitchen staff could poison them.

Absolutely, I just meant that the inhuman monster who was killed wasn't bourgeoisie, he was an aristocrat. These are rich families that stay rich by exploiting the poor and (few remaining) bourgeoisie.

In end stage capitalism you're oligarchy, poor, or soon to be one of the two.

"You guys have houses?" /Meme

Just a reminder but the bourgeoisie are the "middle class", and that the CEO who was killed is part of a capitalist oligopoly.

The bourgeoisie haven't been targeted here, an aristocrat has.

It takes a lot of people to make a missile, yet it only takes one to declare war. Who's more at fault? If I steal a thousand elderly people's retirement savings, and someone else steals my car, are we equally thieves? What if the son of a person who I stole from took it, does that change anything?

Well if I'm going to 'get it,' you have to actually explain it. You're dancing around the issue and I can't tell for sure if it's because you never get to this point in the conversation, or if you legitimately don't know. You've been told to not like something and you're following through on that, but it's clear you just can't fit the parts together. Why would being a blood-parent allow you to send your ideals forward, yet being an adoptive parent, or an uncle, or just a member of the community wouldn't allow it? Do you feel your parents chose who you are, and how you think, and that you'll do the same for your kids?

If you’re stupid enough to fall for this asinine bullshit, we definitely don’t want you reproducing.

Fall for what? You haven't committed to a single idea here, you're all over the map.

I’m just not super interested in people so hellbent on ideological purity that they’ll ignore the most basic mechanics of the world we live in.

So why are you concerned about people getting vasectomies? Why does that mean they cannot also put their ideals out into the world?

You haven't been in a real conversation about this, have you? I understand, we're all in echo chambers of varying sizes. I noticed you also didn't say 'where' which was my original question. I think you're a little younger than I initially clocked you, so I'll ask this carefully:

People move to your country; what does that have to do with having a vasectomy?

You've said passing on ideals, but you haven't explained the connection. The more people around me the more people I can pass my ideals onto -- why would more people decrease that ability, and why would getting a vasectomy stop it, either?

Do you believe in your ideals? Do you want them to be passed on to another generation? If the answer to these questions is no, then I fully support your decision to remove yourselves from the gene pool.

What if your answer is yes, and you want to pass on your ideals to the next generation. Why does having a vasectomy change that? Can someone not pass their ideas on to their adopted children, or their nieces and nephews? Did Martin Luther King Jr. only pass his ideals onto his children, or did he spread his message to the people of both the US and the world? What does people getting vasectomies and people moving to their country change their ability to have ideals and show them to the world? I didn't teach my kids to be kind to others, or to treat people with respect, by telling them: I did it by showing them those actions, and others see those as well, and it spreads.

Again, how does a vasectomy change your ability to pass on ideals?