"We're gonna get this guy": Cops have 200 pics of Brian Thompson assassin as they give 5-word update
Brian Thompson murder: Cops have 200 pics of assassin as they give 5-word update
Statistically, there were likely 4 more murders in NYC since this one, I'm sure they're investigating those just as thoroughly.
If he had killed any of us, the cops wouldn't give a shit.
Remember that.
And if you were in a bad situation, cops on the scene have a higher chance of killing you.
These insurance providers kills thousands and the cops don't give a shit.
Yeremi Colino was murdered the same day. No massive manhunt, no big cash reward for his murderers' capture. AFAIK, they're still at large.
But I guess that's the difference in how our society values the lives of a migrant teenager and a CEO of a massive insurance conglomerate.
I love how they're using the full force of their resources to catch this guy, but a random murder they put two detectives on for a few months, shrug and close the case.
shrug and close the case
And every politician, every cop on the street Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite
Thaaaat is how the world works! 🎶
This needs more attention. We should all be collectively outraged at the police response. They should saddle 2 detectives with the case and direct all these resources back to where they were before. The rest of the CEOs can sleep with one eye open.
In addition to looking for the killer, police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
This is definitely where they need to focus their resources first.
Honestly? Yea probably. It'd be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.
It's clear they haven't even given it a first look. The guy put the title of the book on the bullet casings
Too bad they can’t read!
Somebody looking to hide their motive would that too tho
Yes. It is extremely bizarre how something like this could happen.
Especially since the president elect already said he could do the same thing one block over, four years ago
I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.
I'm convinced. This is a South Park episode.
Is the NYPD not aware of the internet?
They are wasting a lot of time and money and energy on this investigation
If he shows up at my door, I'll gladly house him. You should too.
And you don’t have to ask him why he is running. It’s perfectly legal to help a stranger in need without asking them if they broke the law. In fact, it used to be seen as the most Christian thing to do by not judging.
I said exactly this to my friend on the phone today.
Aiding and abetting murder can result in the same charges and penalties as the principal offender, which could include life in prison without parole
Your statement could be true, but the way you’re presenting it sounds like you’re just letting the oppressors win.
This isn't true. Harboring someone from the police after they commit a crime makes you an accessory, not a primary.
Edit: to be more concrete and actually cite what I'm saying (my bad), we'll use federal law since they clearly crossed state lines multiple times in the stages of committing this act of heroism crime:
An accessory after-the-fact is someone who, knowing a crime was committed, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the offender or in any manner aids them to escape arrest or punishment. See: U.S. v. Triplett, 92 F.2d 1174 (5th Cir. 1991). The aid provided by the defendant to the principal must be given after the principal completes the crime.
The basic elements the government must demonstrate to prove that a defendant was an accessory after-the-fact are: (1) the commission of an underlying crime against the United States; (2) the defendant’s knowledge of that offense; and (3) assistance by the defendant in order to prevent the apprehension, trial, or punishment of the offender. See: U.S. v. White, 135 S. Ct. 1573, 191 L. Ed. 2d 656 (2015); Ellis v. U.S., 806 F. Supp. 2d 538 (E.D. N.Y. 2011).
I'm sorry I don't watch the news, so I have no idea who this person on my couch is, he just looked like a good guy who does good things.
I do not care
I will take a jury trial ;)
Me to the judge: He said he was my cousin Paddy!
Me to the shooter: You lied to me! wangs him with a skillet*
problem solved.
sudo !!
A bit unnuanced though
Oh shit, a crime the cops actually have to solve, haha, can't just frame some poor sap this time gotta do some actual detective work. I hope they never catch him and the PD gets defunded. I know its NYC and they need cops but I think they could use a haircut at least
They can't even blame a brown or black person, this is SSS rank detective work and they are a one-legged Kickboxer in this match.
Ya, this white guy must have them stumped.
I'm entirely unconvinced that anyone needs the thugs with badges. Multiple studies have shown that every single time that the NYPD pulls a "blue flu," the crime rate drops, significantly. As far as I can tell, the thugs with badges cause a significant amount of the crime in this country.
I agree, but if one day we abolished all cops, people in NYC especially would freak out. Hell some cops would probably do a bunch of crime to prove a point. Its not a demand that people like very much, . I think the police as a force that absolutely only exists to protect private property of the owning class, and I don't know if you wanna hear my "nuanced" opinions and I don't know if they're worth very much. But I think that the police as a reactive force needs to be handled tactically in order to protect people who are protesting and force through demands. By and large I agree with Farrell Dobbs analysis in teamster rebellion was, during a political rebellion such as the 1934 Minneapolis teamster strike, the state of a police department changes daily and must be evaluated daily based on primarily their numbers. It would be great for left wing mass movements to make demands on the ruling class if that number was zero, but that's unrealistic and most people know it.
We all watched them sit around for an hour knowing small children were dying inside a school. We know exactly what they’re made of
It's already been two and a half days. The longer they go without catching him the less likely it will be that they do.
The fact that they are issuing a wider manhunt seems to back that up.
Given the publicity, I'm sure that they'll catch a guy, but I'm skeptical that they'll catch that guy.
Hate to burst the bubble but this guy threatened the illusion that the billionaire class is untouchable. The ultra-rich are going to be leaning heavily on all the politicians and officials they helped put into position to ensure this guy gets caught no matter the cost, and ensure he's made an example of.
It might not be the NYPD or any other civil police department, but you can bet NSA & FBI leadership is getting multiple phone calls demanding they get involved and go over every piece of information related to the shooting they can get till they identify the killer. The ultra-rich won't let this one slide as one of their own was publicly murdered, so they won't stop at anything to ensure the killer's character is publicly murdered so that anyone who tries to copycat or get ideas can equally be ostracized as an outcast.
Even if they don't the guy, they'll still find a guy. The illusion of control must be maintained.
The dude that got shot wasn't a billionaire, not even close. With a net worth of $54 million he's just as much of a peasant to them as we are.
Even if they catch him and hang him, it doesn’t mean that he didn’t accomplish his goal.
If you’re trying to show your untouchable, revenge won’t prove that.
Jury nullification.
He's not getting a jury. They're going to cut him down and say he shot himself so his legacy will be that he was a coward . At least that will be the attempt but it seems like everyone will know better
This exactly my thought. They will do everything to make him crazy or suicidal.The good thing is that someone leak what he wrote on the casing. This makes it clear he is socially motivated. Hopefully, if they ever close in, he will have an online stream up.
He should walk naked into a major TV studio carrying nothing, ask them to call the cops. Force them to accept a surrender.
Americans really need to google these words if they haven't already.
You have to say it six times in a row in front of a mirror with the lights off.
By all means do. I can't wait to hear this man's story.
And good luck getting a conviction. Jury Nullification go brrrrr
Wouldn't that be something? If the people collectively decided, "Nah this is fine. This was reasonable."
I doubt it but that would be beautiful.
Could even stop before it gets that far. It'll be difficult to convene a jury with so many candidates dismissed for saying "nah, fuck health insurance CEOs".
That moment when the Healthcare CEOs realize that no jury will convict their murderers in a country with more guns than people.
Yup, this is my concern. They’ll claim he resisted during their no-knock raid, and they had no choice but to execute him in his bed. And all of the body footage will be “accidentally” scrubbed, or every single officer “forgot” to turn their body cams on.
“The assassin didn’t resist” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”
I think they can just move it as a judgement as a matter of law, or whatever else rule applies. It was a pretty clear case afterall
Police realize 1 video is made of 200 pictures
200 pics are big boy words.
That's at least 10 seconds of video footage at 20 FPS.
If they do find him, the prosecutors are going to have a hell of a time trying to weed out anyone interested in jury nullification.
Incorrect. You're in a social media bubble.
The average person who gets chosen for jury duty somehow won't know who this guy is despite reports on every media outlet. It blows my mind how oblivious those people can be.
Yuuuup. Like that spike in Google searches for "did Biden drop out" or whatever during the week leading up to the election. A lot of people live with their head in the sand.
In that case the jury conversation will go something like this: “I wonder why the judge won’t allow anyone to know the victim’s occupation?”
The second the jury finds out this guy was a health-insurance CEO, half of them will shrug and go “time served”.
If I asked every single person I’m on a first name basis with what jury nullification was I bet a large sum of money that none of them would have an answer.
Now you've done it lol
Imagine what happens if they fail, and they can't even produce a fall guy?
The thing is, Americans know their police force is lazy and useless. We're all joking about all the murders that will go unsolved that have occurred since the CEO's death. Now, there's a real chance that their incompetence will be on full display. Is it really out of the question to think that they have become so impotent that someone could carefully plan and execute an assassination?
I expect they'll find a fall guy if they can't find the real killer. Can't look incompetent when the nation's watching!
Yeah totally
i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us and; given the democrat's obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it'll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire's decline; besides the election, ukraine's defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd's, etc.
yeah the democrats did it. ffs.
this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
This feels hyperbolic.
The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn't limit it to surveillance. If we're just talking about the US, there's the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.
the difference is that it's in the news and has widespread appeal.
those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.
ukraine's defeat
Tankie moment.
So is this what people keep talking about when they say they see a lot of tankies in lemmy?
Cause me reading that, OP was implying the likely defeat given current trend, I did not take it as a support of Putin.
yes, it's tankie to spell out reality in the united states.
sometime i wish this were reddit so i could do remind me next year
Unfortunately, I've worked with a lot of republicans in my lifetime. Hating overpaid CEOs and thinking insurance is a scam are 2 of the only things I've seen republicans and democrats agree on. Good fucking luck convicting him.
So many resources spent for one dead white guy. I dont imagine every murder gets this much attention and expensive work done on it.
The continued existence of police forces in the US depends on their role as protector of the wealthy. They know they must perform their duty or risk losing the protection of their patrons.
If the FBI and the NYPD don't have the footage they need within 1 week, their ability to catch the right guy will diminish, as CCTV feeds from across the country get overwritten. If the suspect can grow and keep facial hair it would probably be difficult to match against these images. They could request some from the bus centers in Atlanta, New York and every stop in between but there's only so much footage they'll be able to get their hands on, this person seems to know what they were doing and staying less identifiable in public.
Those facial features could absolutely also be a mask. They're very exaggerated
Hmmm...
That would make more sense. The distinctive backpack must have made him easily traced by cameras.
Why would he do that?
Either he was incompetent or he knows the art of misdirection. A mask that he knowing allowed to be seen would send the authorities on a wild goose chase. All of the cops would be looking for the wrong person for a long time.
A quick change, ditch all the distinctive outfit, and change into a non-descript Walmart outfit. Then take care to let no camera see his real face as he high-tails to a safe location.
Or even just artificial
If this guy has any brains at all, he's in Timbuktu by now.
He's definitely not up here in Canada, relaxing in my basement.
Nor mine. They'd better not waste their resources coming up here to have a look.
I dunno, Mali hasn't been doing so hot. I'd be curious what the kidnappers that catch him would do with him though
Once outside of the US, I think the CIA gets involved and I suspect it's, in many ways, a more dangerous group to have mad at and hunting for you.
"we're going to get this guy"
Twist: that's not the guy that shot him...
That's 6 words, 7 if you removed the contraction. I think it was the k-9 unit with the lead pipe in the kitchen.
Are they sure someone got hurt? I hope the gangbang worked out for Trisha... If really someone actually did get hurt.
I'm wondering if they're holding back on sharing extra pictures of him, because by now they must be aware that the likelihood of people helping him hide is super high
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if people broke out of any detention facility of he is ever to be caught just to drive the point home to the parasite class...
He didn't commit any crime. Get fucked
Homer Simpson: No you won't.
they are so annoyed that they actually have to do any work because the subject was rich.
Just need to keep calling in with bogus tips. Say we saw him across the country.
I seent him in Bogota! I swears it!
That guy is Spartacus!
50 years later they finally find him having lived a long fruitful life I'm Santa Monica as a smile model in Colgate commercials. Had 10 children with a beautiful model wife who loved him. Probably worked at the muffler shop for 20 years before discovering his Passion for photography.
Imagine doing this much public service then retiring into a regular job because you are a chill guy who just likes helping people
Something the rich parasites would never understand
King George, upon learning of George Washington's intention to resign, said "If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world."
I'm not here to lionize or even defend slaveowner George Washington. Your comment just made me think of that.
Limp dick regime goons aint got shit... and the long this goes, the more likely he will get away with it.
I hope all of these business "leadership" add this to their calculus when they fuck over paying customers to live large.
FAFO
"Why?"
All this time and energy for this good guy, what a waste, fuck cops.
police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
Someone assassinates a legal serial killer, and cops are looking for a motive?
Wow, those hiring requirements that disqualify applicants if they have too high of an IQ is really working out well for the police force.
This is how I learn that Optum is a subsidiary. Even more apropos that this happened just before I took my wife to another chemo appointment at a facility that was recently bought by Optum ... two and a half weeks late because insurance dragged its feet on authorization.
Press X to doubt.
This reminds me of the kid from die hard 3 "look around all the cops are busy, it's christmas you could steal city hall"
Edit: Found it this one https://youtu.be/47YCsqVhgCQ?feature=shared
In an alternate universe:
"WE FOUND EM'!"
(Proceeds to walk on a stage with the assassin to shake his hand.)
"We just wanted to bring you here to thank you on all our behalf, you really didn't need to run. We're behind you all the way on the next one!"
The reality is: Unless he fled the country he was always going to be caught. That is the point of living in a surveillance state. It was just a matter of time.
As a thought exercise, imagine a bathroom. Ten people go in. One person flips their jacket inside out. Ten people come out. Do you suddenly lose that one person who now has a green jacket instead of a red one? No. You realize the person with a green jacket never "entered" and know something was up.
And now extend that to every single traffic camera, security camera, and so forth in the city and in the country. Because now that "bathroom" is a camera at every major exit in and out of Central Park as well as places where the shrubbery is low enough that you can hop a fence.
And yes, that is a VERY large amount of data. If only we had spent the past few decades learning to represent things as graph problems, how to use computer vision to automate recognition, and so forth.
It was obviously dramatized (and is fascinating from a production standpoint and how much effort they put in to keep the nazi from killing anyone...) but Person of Interest wasn't some dystopic future. It was, if anything, underestimating what is already possible.
So... here is hoping that ridiculously handsome G went straight to the airport and flew to a non extradition treaty country. Probably didn't though and is probably going to get picked up at a bus station.
Also: For all the gun nuts who think you rae going to use your closet full of AR-15s to scream "WILDCATS" and fight off the fascists or invaders or whatever? They'll have access to those cameras too and will be able to figure out what house or cave you are hiding in and send a few drones. So... yeah
Unless he fled the country he was always going to be caught
Eh. Read up on some of the other big mysteries (stuff like The Somerton Man). Every few years someone who has made it their career/identify has some irrefutable evidence that is either refuted or determined to not be that unique. Or it has been solved for decades but nobody cared enough to make it official and the people writing books/doing talk shows benefit from a "mystery".
And in this case? McCoy had already been arrested for a similar crime and is long dead. Nobody really cared to keep searching.
But also? We have a LOT more cameras these days and a LOT more ability to process that data without human intervention.
Also, just to make it clear: even if the shooter escaped the country, they are going to be identified (flying on a fake ID is a lot harder and you can bet all the passengers are being checked against the pictures). But it won't be US cops that catch him (probably just as dead if he doesn't completely disappear though).
The boot lickers licking some boot
Run, Forrest, RUN!
A 24 frames a second film has 24 photos, so they have roughly 8 seconds of footage?
"200 pics" yeah, sure. They don't know shit.
I hope they fail
Probably have 200 pictures of the back of his hood. None of them worth a damn
Going by the title I thought I was in c/theonion for a second. Or c/nottheonion.
"we are gonna get this guy"
I count 6
"we're" is one word.
"Gonna" is slang, but still one word. You'd probably be better breaking that into "going" and "to".
But still, the sentence is 5 words.
"We're" - which is one word - is a contraction of "we are". The update is 5 words.
We are going to get this guy... 7
Anyway, the reported counted 4, not the police.
I assume you were trying to insult the police. (As much as i think thats cool, you have aimed at the wrong target)
We gon git dis guy - 5
Black, brown or cream jacket. So hard to tell them apart!
That's actually 6 words.