SevenOfWine @ SevenOfWine @startrek.website

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If you think the FSB had good intel, that means you think they decided to ignore it and allow the terrorist attack in Moscow to happen.

I don't think they're that evil. But hey, maybe you're right.

Those Ukrainian Jewish Nazi ISIS supporters! They're the worst!

Shoddy intel which was better than what the FSB had on offer.

Shame that the FSB doesn't have better intel on what's happening in Russia than the CIA.

Perhaps they were too busy tracking the gays after Russia recently labelled the LGBT+ movement terrorists. Perhaps they were tired after ensuring Putin won a sufficient margin against the communists. Or maybe some kid posted a meme on tiktok and they got distracted.

You misunderstand how Russian propaganda works.

It's this:

The firehose of falsehood is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency. An outgrowth of Soviet propaganda techniques, the firehose of falsehood is a contemporary model for Russian propaganda under Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

The Jewish Nazis in Ukraine funded ISIS! The CIA funded the ISIS attack! The CIA didn't warn us! The CIA didn't warn us in time! This was done by ISIS! This was done by Ukraine! The attackers were fleeing to Ukraine! They were fleeing to Belarus but we stopped them! We are war with NATO! We are not at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s Russia will be at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s, Russia will shoot them down, but not be at war with NATO!

Etc. etc. etc.

Never attribute to malice, that which can easily be explained by incompetence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTQ7__NNDI&t=9s

Is it?

What about the Armenian genocide? Does it get taught in Turkish schools? Is there a statue?

What about Holodomor? Does that get taught in Russian schools? Is there a statue?

What about the up to 50 million who died as a consequence of the Great Leap Forward? Is there a statue commemorating them?

except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

The guardian did an interesting piece on that:

The form of Russian fascism Dugin and Prokhanov defended is like the central versions of European fascism – explicitly antisemitic. As Snyder writes, “… if Prokhanov had a core belief, it was the endless struggle of the empty and abstract sea-people against the hearty and righteous land-people. Like Adolf Hitler, Prokhanov blamed world Jewry for inventing the ideas that enslaved his homeland. He also blamed them for the Holocaust.” ... . ... By claiming that the aim of the invasion is to “denazify” Ukraine, Putin appeals to the myths of contemporary eastern European antisemitism – that a global cabal of Jews were (and are) the real agents of violence against Russian Christians and the real victims of the Nazis were not the Jews, but rather this group. Russian Christians are targets of a conspiracy by a global elite, who, using the vocabulary of liberal democracy and human rights, attack the Christian faith and the Russian nation. Putin’s propaganda is not aimed at an obviously skeptical west, but rather appeals domestically to this strain of Christian nationalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

With regards to Belgium: the colonial museum has been revamped, schools teach what happened in the Belgian Congo, and no one's going around defending or idealising King Leopold who presided over the worst atrocities. Belgian nationalism barely exists, so that hasn't been a thing in living memory anyway.

Also, what happened in Congo was widely derided even at the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casement_Report

What happened in Congo is taught in Belgian schools and widely known in Europe. Belgium was widely derided for it even at the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casement_Report

Judging by your username, you're Turkish. Are you taught about the Armenian genocide in school?

Or is that one whataboutism too far?

It's disgusting. Goes to show they don't actually care about Palestinians and probably don't even think this is a genocide.

I mean, if they genuinely cared or thought this was a genocide, why are they now defending China and Russia blocking an immediate ceasefire that would at least temporarily stop Palestinian suffering?

How entirely predictable that the same kind of people who make excuses for Russia's role in the genocide in Darfur, Russia's role in Syria, Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and China's treatment of the Uyghurs, care more about scoring points against the US than ending the war in Gaza.

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