Yet it all has no bearing. It's a weak attempt to shame someone for believing ppl need to pay their own debts. People have paid their own education and all that infrastructure was made. How does your entitled tangent make any sense? All that infrastructure will continue to exist without my tax dollars funding post education. Post education is made by private individuals with private institutions. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever.

Holy shit. I wish I was privileged enough to call 40 - 50 k shit pay with pension, longevity, and medical benefits.

That aside though politics is merely a proxy for one's moral standing. Which is why objective facts never sway anyone to a political opinion. Morale arguments might unless someone's morality is firmly established.

I see your argument is that I benefit from ppl going to school. And to that I counter with this. Typically educated ppl in the higher echelons of society hate the class under them. Teachers are more dispositioned to liberalism which makes them hate uneducated rightoids like me. The worst venom I've ever had spit in my direction came from shitlibs higher educated during the pandemic. How about Cops? They are higher educated and yet provide the worst of the worst service on society. Grinding down minority communities based on the collective good of suburban white educated society beating down on the ghettos and urbanite population.

Doctors went full retard during the pandemic introducing medical tyranny. Not even allowing family members or a priest in the rooms to comfort dying ppl. My own doctor was condensending because I would not jab with expiremental Trump vax medicine.

So.. why would I care what the upper echelon of society thinks about me? Why would I want to fund their education? Why should I consider it a moral choice?

These very same ppl will be assholes and want to rule over minorities through collectivist guilds like the blue line brotherhood, medical tyranny (take meds or lose your fuckin job) or even preach in public school classrooms the gospel of anti Americanism and anti white-ism.

Or they'll be some shit lib or neo conservative warhawk asshole who destroys the USA.

You say I benefit from higher education even though I straight up fuckin don't lmmfao! Higher education didn't get me out of the ghetto and into a rual homestead. Working overtime in the working class did. Grueling 70 to 120 hour weeks in security did. Sometimes working two jobs did.

People can fund their own education. I personally don't benefit from having to pay for ppls education.

Yeah sure the infrastructure and everything bla blah. I still don't see why I should incorporate giving a benefit to a class of ppl who hate rual loyal to the tinfoil uneducated types like me anyway. They should pay their way through life. I had to.

Once again you are wrong.

I don't equate privately acquired loans through mutual agreement between two parties with public infrastructure paid for by collectivism.

I'm not taking credit for fixing the roads. If I got hired by a construction crew to pave the roads maybe I could? LoL

Absolute individualism and absolute collectivism cannot exist in their own separate worlds. Both are nessesary.

As for the college loans. People's private education funded through private means is no consequence to me. I should not have to pay for it. Bottom line.

You think my beverage of choice is Kool Aid because you equate my rugged individualism and hatred of being forced to pay for shit I personally don't use for not endorsing collectivism for things I do actually use and am entitled to.

I will never go to school. Can't afford it. Don't have the brain power. It's just a waste of my hard earned money.

I'm entitled to use the roads because the state takes taxes out of my check to maintain them. I voluntarily pay lottery tickets that also go towards roads and education. None of that would mean anything if I didn't pay for gas, insurance, tags, through work.

You see.. All that infrastructure means jack all if I'm some derelict on welfare not using it. If I just smoked weed all day, gamed, and feasted on snacks all that collectivist infrastructure doesn't benefit me at all.

It's only because of my rugged individualism and work ethic that I get to use what's there. The fridge cannot keep my koolaid under the room temperature if I cannot pay the electric. The electric can't be paid unless I work. Everything in life relies on my own self determination.

Yeah I drank the Kool aid alright. I did not go to College. I worked working class jobs all my life. Saved my money, paid off all my loans, and now am shopping for 10 acres of Oklahoma land for a homestead where I'll start farming part time while holding down a full time job. I'll sell sheep wool.

I'm not some whiny bitch who wants the government to be a welfare fairy because they can't pay back a loan. I've bought cars. I've paid off long term investments pal.

The fruit of my labor came from calloused hands and work.

Did you know that term drinking the Kool aid came from the Jim Jones socialist cult right? LoL you can't make this stuff up.

Failure shouldn't be rewarded.

Your sentiment has some merit. Yes the school system and the banks are corrupt no doubt. But you lose me on the wisdom part.

It's like watching those Disney cartoons where the bad guy is putting on the nice act. Sure you're behind the fourth wall and it's obvious as fuck the protagonists are being played...

But we are behind the fourth wall on this issue. We know it's a scam and a scheme. It's unwise to sell yourself into long term debt. If you are average keep out. If your brain is a super computer and is full of wrinkles you may proceed. That's my best advice. Sorry. Just reality.

Ignorant as my take may be, and as correct as your assessment may be they are debtors by choice.

They made the deal with the devil and thus contribute to the pyramid scheme that is college and bank loans.

The only long term loan I'd ever take is a mortgage because it holds and build equity.

School doesn't do shit unless you are truly an intellectual. The problem is a lot of people who don't have the brain power (I sure as hell don't) go to these schools for the allure of riches and status but end up as debtoids to the satanic post secondary education system. The cream of the crop and upper echelons of society graduate from the scam.

Listen.. I'm not interested in paying more taxes to fund a bunch of college kids who went partied, had lots of premarital sex, skipped classes, and couldn't pay back a loan.

The government is not some magical welfare fairy here to bail you out of bad financial decisions. It's an oligarchy of pedophile satanists scheming ways to rip you off more and more. So yeah.

Blame the Republicans and Supreme Court as they may... It doesn't change the fact that no Republican was there twisting their arm to sign an indomitable debt for a post education. They made the stupid decision to go to college and thenceforth sell themselves willingly into long term debt.

These kids have the intelligence. They lack the wisdom.

I think MTG is kind of attractive.

She's Republican AOC.

Nah I always paid off my own loans. My credit is good all my cards get paid off in a timely and efficient fashion. I've paid off vehicles too.

Fuck those ppl who want me to pay for their bad financial habits.

I donated 100 bucks to a single mother who was struggling during the Pandemic. I donated some of it to the World Wildlife Fund to sponsor an animal. I saved the rest for a homestead I am planning on planting soon.

That is not important though. It's my money. I paid for it. My taxes went into the pot. I have an entitlement to the stimulus money. No I do not agree with the stimulus at face value. But the government did ruin ppls lives and forcibly shut down small businesses entrepreneurs while giving big box store conglomerations immunity. It was fucked up. So the stimulus is somewhat justified.

The stimulus and college dorks who took out a loan willingly are not the same.

Several countries in Europe already ban GMO. There's a few countries in the middle east and Africa that ban GMO.

GMO has been responsible for environmental foibles and is not healthy for human consumption.

You speak in prophecy regarding the banning of GMOs destroying our future yet say it so matter of factly. It's funny as fuck. Thanks for making my night lol.

RFK's environmentalism is appealing. Banning GMO, and cleaning up our natural resources. At least that's what's grabbed my attention. He's also not a warmongering neocon like Biden. RFK wants a peace driven American society.

Bat shit crazy? If you say so but he's got very good ideas.

RFK is the best person in the race.

They are afraid of the Lore around Trump. Trump is unique. It's not his narcissism, or conservative politics the liberals fear. It's much more to it.

There's a narrative, a cannon, a lore built around Trump. It's not even Trump that they fear it's his following. They fear the populist movement and the MAGA crowd. They want it all to go away. When I read liberal comments these days it seems like they truly want censorship and authoritarianism to shut down the MAGA sentiment. When I was a teenager I remember liberals were more edgy and pro freedom of speech. Pro liberty.

Biden has literal videos on the internet of him molesting kids. People still voted for him. That tells you something. The sheer desperation in the air to keep Trump out of office cannot be underestimated...

I think Trump should step down. I think Biden should step down. His son is a pedophile. He is a pedophile. These are not good politicians at all.

These are toxic swamp monsters stirring up civil unrest.

No. It wouldn't of been necessary if governors didn't have a knee jerk reaction to shut everything down and ruin private enterprise. People lost everything. I personally know at least three small business owners who closed permanently because the authoritarian lockdown measures were not compatible with their business model.

Nah. I simply don't care for paying for other's college. These people who want me to pay their bills are not the cream of the crop. They're not doctors, lawyers, or any specialized skilled labor.

Nobody is entitled to money. You make a deal and money is exchanged. It's that simple. In this case someone who borrowed more than they could pay back now wants others who never even went to college to work off their debts.

It's not fair to those without skin in the game.

There's no shortage of ppl who graduate college. Maybe the art degree, or lesbian dance theory wasn't a good financial decision.

No. At least not yet. It's still in a savings account towards a homestead I am planning on planting in the near future.

There's already grants and donations for college kids to pay for school. It's not wealthy people's job to keep people from making stupid life choices.

There are two mutual parties who sign a loan and it's a legally binding document. These socialist moves will end up hurting the working class like they always do.