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Is the Kbin source outdated compared to kbin.social?
  • We don't really know. Supposedly it is, ernest just isn't pushing the code to codeberg, instead keeping it locally. He has mentioned before he's going to push the latest changes (though he never did that), so it sounds like there do exist changes not reflected on the repository yet. But I have no idea how things went since then.

  • Is the Kbin source outdated compared to kbin.social?
  • I believe mbin stopped merging kbin changes, probably either when they had their fallout with ernest where he pushed unfinished code that caused issues, or when he started his refactoring which I've seen some mbin contributors dislike because it requires changes on their side too.

    Either way, there's definitely features missing on mbin that I know are in the kbin source, like the sort options on profiles. Collections are definitely there too.

    when in theory they all use 0.10.1

    First of all, there's no way this is true for mbin. It's a fork, it has its own versions.
    Fedidb says most instances of mbin (on its first page of instances) use version 1.5.3, though kbin.melroy.org uses 1.6.0.

    But also, hasn't kbin been 0.10.1 since forever even before ernest added all the new features? I don't think that version string means much if anything.

  • What it's like to be a developer in 2024
  • That's why I use Copilot.

    Asked it for the official documentation, got a link to the /current/ documentation's chapter on operators. Then asked for the heading about the IN operator and it gave me all four of the numbers. No need to wade through outdated or irrelevant results.

  • The future of kbin.earth...
  • I understand why they disabled public downvotes (since they're accepting incoming ones now, they don't want to expose everyone's downvotes from other instances), and I remember they gave some reasoning on Github for why it makes sense to not hide upvotes too, but do we really need incoming downvotes? I think that feature should be a toggle where you either have downvotes hidden but federated, or visible but not federated. And then the instance owner can decide what they prefer.

    That's really my main issue with mbin. While I've gotten too used to the All Content view and collections, both of those are on their roadmap, so they'll be coming eventually.

  • Are we cut off?
  • And I can see this comment from kbin, so seems to work this direction too.

  • kbin.social/sub says 404 page not found. Does anyone else have this issue?
  • though kbin still doesn't render the code block correctly it seems

    Yeah, I hope ernest (or someone else) fixes it soon. Mbin has fixed it, so it should be possible to check there how it was done.

    I did make a frontend fix for it which is included in KES and available standalone on Greasyfork. But it would be much preferable if this was fixed in kbin itself.

    I think the big problem is that the issue on codeberg is closed. Ernest never got involved, but other maintainers closed it as a "lemmy issue" which it isn't. Lemmy is federating completely legal HTML with escaping applied to spec and kbin should be able to understand it. Mbin can understand it.

  • You Can Now Follow President Biden on the Fediverse
  • It it like he can see us but we can’t see him?

    Opposite way around. We can see him but he can't see us.

    The reason you can't see him is because you're on Lemmy which will only display microblog posts if they're (1) a reply to a Lemmy post, (2) made from kbin/mbin, or (3) replied to by someone from kbin/mbin (not entirely sure about this one).

  • You Can Now Follow President Biden on the Fediverse
  • Considering I can see him from kbin, it probably means he can't see us.

  • So I really am the cancer on this platform
  • To newly federate a magazine with Lemmy, search for it using the syntax !Polytopia@kbin.social in Lemmy's built-in search. This worked for me instantly when I just tested it on lemm.ee, after confirming that it 404s before doing it.

  • Do the "Ernest needs to add more maintainers to KBin!" comments remind anyone else of the xz social engineering malarkey?
  • I don't know what this xz thing is about, first time hearing it. But people saying he should get more help are trying to help him, not having malicious plans like installing backdoors or whatever.

    I do think people should ask less for more maintainers — the project is already opensource, so it's up to maintainers to join, not him to seek them out. But he should still get some help with managing the instance. Pauses in development are fine imo, but the instance shouldn't be swarmed with spam and account deletion requests lost in limbo just because ernest got sick or something, which can happen with the best work life balances.

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  • Progressive web app. Modern browsers let you install a website to your phone or desktop as a pseudo-app. It'll still run in the browser, but most of the browser stuff, like tabs and bookmarks, are hidden to give you a focused and clean experience. Developers only have to ensure their website supports mobile phones and don't need to develop an entire app project to accomodate phone users.

  • Multiple questions regarding Kbin
  • On Lemmy, users can send each others direct messages. It seems like Kbin/Mbin has no way of displaying those direct messages. Is that correct or is there a way to show direct messages?

    Direct messages exist on kbin/mbin, but users are currently unable to send or receive them from other instances than their own. Sending is implemented but intentionally disabled by ernest, for unknown reason, but it might have to do with receiving not working.

    Mbin has an open issue on this and yesterday someone said it's planned but low priority. It also links to the related kbin issue.

  • Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die
  • From what I can tell, it's mostly brought up in the discussion of a pull request for supporting federated dislikes.

    That's where I originally saw it. I'm sure there's probably some more discussion on matrix though, that seems to be their main discussion platform.

    Some additional links without discussions:

    Edit: Also, to clarify, it's only seeing who downvoted that's made private, the actual amount of downvotes is kept public. It's not a Youtube situation.

  • Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die
  • Having thought about this for a bit, I think it might actually be better for ernest if this instance died a bit. Not entirely, but it could use some redistribution of users to other instances.

    Like, it wasn't meant to be this big main instance of kbin. That's just what it became. And it's got to have an effect on his stress levels and development time.

    I feel like the instance is like a ballon that continually gets pumped with fresh air. Ernest constantly has to make sure the balloon doesn't pop. Maybe it would be better for it to pop so he can focus on other things?

  • Ernest needs to quickly delegate or this instance will quickly die
  • I was considering moving to mbin, but their decision to make downvoting private makes that a very unpleasant idea for me. Public voting was one of the initial selling points for kbin for me. If I move, then it's probably to another kbin instance like kbin.earth for now.

    I appreciate that earnest made a post yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, saying that he is not dead and hasn't given up on kbin. It's not on this magazine, so I'm not sure where it was since this seems to be the most appropriate one, but in any case.

    Are you not talking about this thread?

    and invite other moderators

    Definitely. I've applied to a handful of magazines weeks ago and have read about others having done so too. I really think magazine ownership requests should be accepted automatically on kbin.social. There's already requirements in place to whether you can make one, that should be good enough for abuse safety measures.

    Instance moderators would be better, but I don't know if there's people lining up for that role whom he also can trust with it.

    and contributors.

    The issue here is that all contributors have moved on to mbin. You don't just look for contributors, the contributors choose to contribute. So unless he's willing to pay them, I don't think this is a problem he can solve, and I doubt he makes enough money to hire people.

  • RE: Is Ernest still here?
  • I know. I'm just saying that the idea people would magically help out on kbin if he was more open about his plans doesn't work out, because the people willing to do so would either already be contributing to cleaning up the backlog or have moved on to mbin.

    Btw, do mbin devs look at kbin issues too or do common problems have to be posted to both repositories to be seen?

  • In an age of LLMs, is it time to reconsider human-edited web directories?
  • @ajsadauskas I think Github's awesome lists are kind of like this. They're human-maintained catalogues of worthwhile websites on a specific topic.

  • RE: Is Ernest still here?
  • I'm just focusing on clearing spam

    This is good to hear, but there's still soooo much spam on the instance, it's clearly too much for you. Can you please accept some of the magazine ownership requests (and moderator requests on your magazines) so we can actually help you with this? I know I've applied to a few, which are still pending, so there's definitely people waiting in line.

  • To those genuinely interested in moderating
  • Make sure to actually mention him if you want this to be seen. @ernest

  • RE: Is Ernest still here?
  • On the other hand, if people really wanted to contribute, there's plenty of open issues on Codeberg that are unadressed. I agree that it would be better to announce plans in advance rather than surprise drop them, but I doubt there would be more contributions from the community.

  • /kbin meta @kbin.social Pamasich @kbin.social
    [@ernest](https://kbin.social/u/ernest)

    @ernest I've noticed this week that I'm currently seeing no visual indication that the boost button is active. No underline, color, or anything. It seems that a now-broken userstyle I'm using expects there to be an "active" class applied to the element, but it isn't anymore. Is that intentional? Figured I should point this out to you in case you don't know already.

    \#kbinMeta

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    /kbin meta @kbin.social Pamasich @kbin.social
    [@ernest](https://kbin.social/u/ernest)

    @ernest Is there currently a way to see threads boosted by followed users as a #kbin user? If not, is that something you're planning to add eventually?

    \#kbinMeta

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    /kbin meta @kbin.social Pamasich @kbin.social
    So, what's the status on the update? (edit: ernest responded)

    I don't want to hurry anyone, just asking what's up, if there's been any trouble or anything.

    Two weeks ago it was announced that there would be a planned outage introducing a big update that same week or early the next week (which would be last week). But that outage and update has yet to happen.

    What's the situation on that? Ernest doesn't seem to have posted about it since (except clarifying that the one outage they had wasn't related to it). Did he actually quit kbin (like he said he would if it's not finished by end of last month iirc) and I'm supposed to follow someone else for news? I hope that's not the case...

    Again, don't want to hurry anyone, just wondering what's up. I only follow the threads here and ernest's account for news on the topic, so I'm hoping someone better informed can fill me in.

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    Why is it called Fediverse / Federation?

    I get it that things can have unfortunate names, but I've seen a lot of people proudly claim lemmy is "federated" or a "federation". Isn't a federation actually against what people want out of the fediverse?

    Like, a federation in governments is about a bunch of otherwise self-governing states under a centralized government. Like the US, that's a federation.

    isn't the whole point of the fediverse that it's anti-centralization? Then why do people call it a federation positively? That sounds like the last thing I'd want it to be.

    I think a confederation would work, but that's not what I see people going for. Is that what it's actually intended to be and people just call it the wrong thing?

    Imo Reddit is more of a federation than the fediverse, since the subreddits are self-governing communities until the admins demand them to change something.

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    When I visit the [#mastodon](https://kbin.social/tag/mastodon) page of a [#kbin](https://kbin.social/tag/kbin) or [#lemmy](https://kbin.social/tag/lemmy) user/community through a direct link or enteri

    When I visit the #mastodon page of a #kbin or #lemmy user/community through a direct link or entering the url (as opposed to navigating to it manually on mastodon), I get taken to the kbin/lemmy instance instead. How can I prevent that?

    \#fediverse

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    What does following a user do?

    If I follow a person, not subscribing to a magazine, what does that do for me? Do I see their posts/comments somewhere; if so where? Also, do boosts factor into that or are they purely to bump stuff up in the algorithm?

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    Pamasich Pamasich @kbin.social

    Software Developer, Switzerland Languages: German, Allemanic (Swiss German), English Hobbies: Gaming, Anime

    I almost only watch seasonal anime. As for games, I currently mostly play Star Rail, Noita, and Shotgun King.

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