Just baffling
Melvin_Ferd @ Melvin_Ferd @lemmy.world Posts 22Comments 1,325Joined 2 yr. ago
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Yea I get it. Liberalism is left of center. There's no denying it. A lot of you just moved far left to the point that you all think the center moved with you. It did not. The political spectrum is not centered on socialism/capitalist. The options are not support socialism or capitalism. That is very lazy way to categorize the political spectrum. There's more to it.
No, this was not specific to US.
Yea but you're all not authority on any of this. So it doesn't matter. The rest of the world knows liberalism as left of center. Just facts
Jesus I'm so sick and tired of people parroting this DNC line. Nobody has mentioned the DNC here.
Capitalism is not a defining feature of being left. There is more to being on the left than just socialist ideals
Haha touch grass yea so funny dude.
You spend 4 hours and end up having a real conversation with 4 people who were already on board or lonely.
We spent 5 minutes and these comments already had probably 50 people read it.
Keep your moral virtuosity. Make sure as the left continue to lose that you hold it close and live in that bubble of yours. Somehow the left have no ability to adapt or change in a modern world and it shows everyday.
The right are online. They're not door knocking. They're already in everyone's living room. Every single person in your life I bet has told you some right wing point like asking if wearing masks are actually safe or that vaccinations might not work. That's because the right have adapted and continue to capitalize on effective communication, capture and engagement. Something door knocking is not. They have shops with stickers, Facebook groups, they're about to Buy tiktok.
Wake up FFS.
Not all left want socialism. The political spectrum is not divided by "want socialism / do not want socialism"
But you're right it's not that deep
Yea what about in Canada
Yes they are. A Liberal for most political subgroups in liberalism are left of center with the odd leaning center right. Liberalism values mostly are left of center values.
I have done it.
Why would you knock on someone's door? What's the point?
Are you guys being serious right now? This is insane. Liberal values are left of center.
I think I get it. Right wing groups like koch Bros and heritage institutes push the left to fracture into very niche small subsets in order to isolate making it hard for those groups to organize and easier to kill them off. Much like how a cheetah separates a young calf from the herd. So what groups are you talking about for your "huge range of viewpoints"
Totally not silly at all to get hyper specific about political ideology. I'm a liberal right center neo cat Audi rhino born a capitalist but transitioned to a socialist somewhere around 1992 when political synergy was at its peak
Then why the fuck do you people show up to protest??
How does it make any sense to you that people will drive miles to some street and stand around while police kick your heads in. You cannot argue protesting publicly is effective yet engagement and capture online is not. What is really fucking crazy is how a lot of the left are convinced a public protest is Mecca while online engagement (which every one is putting money into as you said) is crap.
Almost like the people who put money into the effective methods are convincing their opponent to do the ineffective thing while they convince them the effective methods that they're all invested in is useless.
They're funding what you are doing for free right now. It's insane how thick minded so many of you are. Every comment or content you all make costs them money to counter. It's a numbers game. It costs you nothing. Take every protester willing to show up in the streets and teach them how to create media.
The left is cooked. So much brain rot on the left. You're all calling people who have beat you in every arena as low information. Yet they beat you all, everywhere. How'd that no Kings protest work out?
Online is where opinions are shaped and formed. It's a force multiplier. I'm so done with the left. Have no idea what they're doing. It's like watching people click their fingers in a park all over again.
Everything is online. Nobody knows you knocked on doors in the neighborhood while people were eating supper. After supper people are logging into their favorite social media and engaging with content. Content which right now is leaning heavily on the right and affecting generations. I'll argue all day that everything you said is exactly what the left is fucked and totally losing everything for the foreseeable future.
Zohran I hope to God succeeds but he's going to need so much support online and the left removed themselves from every platform, they have no connection, structure or voices to organize online, they have no tools to assist. They all hate AI. They think every platforms is racist except fully leftist ones.
TPUSA, Heritage foundation, Cato institute, Koch Bros fucking UFC and barstool sports are all going to really amplify and sabotage Zohran. They have so many ins with business and media, they'll all self sandstone sabotage to make sure the numbers can be amplified ONLINE to as many people as possible. The left is so far behind the times, they have no ability to counter this very foreseeable future.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/social-sciences/left-liberals
Liberal/Left-leaning people embrace social services and government intervention in the economy. Conservative/Right-leaning people support lower taxes, free markets and less government intervention in the economy. Libertarians advocate both personal and economic liberty (freedom). Authoritarians favour strict obedience to authority and government control, at the expense of personal and economic freedom.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/leftright/
the word left is applied to people and groups that have liberal views.
It's both honestly. Overall I think the issue is rooted more in culture. Not tech. Secondly I am starting to question the role of media in yellow journalism to sell ads online by catering to crowds
Liberals are left
Even better to my point then that the right was more effective with using it. Something about the left is super passive which is weird because they're so loud with what they'll do one day if ever they had the opportunity to do something about the thing they're really mad at for that day they'll totally do it.
Holy fuck this is spot on.
I'm so tired of hearing "they're so racist"
It's such a terminating clause. Like we don't need to actually understand at a deeper level why guy born a Mexican, still is Mexican but is voting for Trump because.... They're racist against Mexicans????
I'm so done with the left. It's so tiring. They even adapt their messages. I can go back 15 years and still see the exact comments of "they're racist" while right wing dominate spaces seem to come up with new things every 6 months. Soy cuck Wojack probably conjures up a whole era all our minds right? What about "man they're racist" what does that conjure up?
The left should lose the right to call anyone low information voters until they sort themselves the fuck out
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Emerging together does not mean they are dependent on each other.