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Its going to come down to whether this was a special 'concert' organized by Mr Feucht or whether the congregation, hearing that Mr Feucht was denied the chance to play at this previously planned venue, then invited to join them for their worship service as a guest musician.

It appears to be the latter as the press release is worded "protesters attempt to shut down Christian service attended by U.S. artist Sean Feucht" All it would take is for someone in the church leadership to testify, 'Yes we invited him to come play at our service' and its not a concert, he's a guest musician at a worship service and you dont need a permit for that.

Either way the city is going to lose because they shut him down on a pretense but the real motivation was action by local activist groups, and that won't fly in court as a legal reason to silence him. This is still Canada, we dont shut people down because some people dont like their message. We dont even shut down a public protests where the leader uses a bullhorn to scream "Death to Canada!" so Im pretty sure Mr Feucht's worship songs to what sounds like a very small group of people, will pass the legal test.

Thats a press release from the legal department of The Democracy Fund. What part is gaslighting?

Well, pretty much knew it was coming. The city will DEFINITELY lose this case...

NEWS RELEASE Montreal church fined for worship service; TDF takes on legal defence

The Democracy Fund defends Ministerios Restauración after police interruption and protesters attempt to shut down Christian service attended by U.S. artist Sean Feucht.

Montreal — The Democracy Fund has stepped in to represent Ministerios Restauración/Église MR - the Montreal church at which US-based artist Sean Feucht worshipped on July 25, 2025.

Ministerios Restauracion Church was issued a ticket with a fine in the amount of $2,500 for engaging in Christian worship at a Friday service. Video shows police entering the Church before or during the worship service. Later, protesters attempted to forcefully shut it down.

Feucht, a Christian musician and activist known for leading large outdoor worship events across the U.S., was in Montreal as part of a Canadian visit. His presence drew criticism from local activist groups. Officials accused the Church of violating municipal bylaws related to event permits or zoning. However, no such regulations prohibit regular worship gatherings.

TDF litigation director, Mark Joseph, said: "Freedom of religion is a fundamental freedom under s.2(a) of the Charter: you do not need permission or a permit from the government to worship at a church in Canada. It is absurd to suggest otherwise, and it risks setting a dangerous precedent that will extend to all religions. TDF and its lawyers intend to fight this matter and are eager to respond to this obvious Charter infringement in court."

Somewhere between Vancouver and Winnipeg lol

So you approve of violence against people you disagree with philosophically? Alrighty then. Thats a good way to start a civil war but that's not how Canadians solve differences.

Im not a bot and Im from western Canada, Im quite familiar with "hate" speech laws. Please show me what he said at that church that was "hate" speech?

There's no way that will withstand the court case thats coming. It was a worship service. They were singing songs, not talking about US political viewpoints. The press is making a mountain out of a molehill for the clicks but there's no way anyone needs a permit to sing songs in a church. Just yellow journalism.

To quote someone else on this: "He is not forcing the stop to alternate relationships, he is not forcing the take over of Canada. He is expressing his beliefs like the LGBT community express their beliefs during Pride Parades." Or Black Lives Matter believing stopping traffic and forcing stores to close will support their cause. Hell, we didnt even stop the pro Palestian protester who was screaming "Death to Canada!" We don't stop those people, so why should anyone think we should stop this guy?

Just because somebody says something I find disagreeable is not a justification for silencing that person. I can argue with them, I could ignore them, I can encourage people to have nothing to do with them, but I don't have a right to silence them. This is Canada, we still support free speech. Unless of course you belong to a certain minority group that would rather throw smoke bombs in churches in an act of hatred while hypocritically proclaiming that they are protesting hatred. Pretty pathetic.

I think he knows that the group thats pushing back the hardest is the LGBT community because he's not a supporter. And therefore his contrasting example is very applicable.

Its kinda funny that he's labelled almost exclusively as "MAGA" by the press when he's here to do worship services. I dont believe anything he did in his first concert had anything to do with politics, it was worship music. Its not like the press wants to stir the pot by emphasizing the MAGA thing /s

If they hadnt made a big deal out of it, this guy would've gone across Canada and nobody would've noticed except a small group of Christians. Now he's had international press and more publicity than he could ever afford to buy. Whether that was intentional or not, its brilliant marketing.

So you think buying a railway network is the same as buying single family houses from MILLIONS of Canadians, some of whom, like me, live in them or actually built them ourselves? Ok then, good luck with that brilliant plan. Im sure there will be no pushback on that idea.

Lol. Yeah I closed it. But declaring bankruptcy is more fun.

Feucht has framed the backlash as a violation of religious freedom, saying: “If I had shown up with purple hair and a dress, claiming to be a woman, the government wouldn’t have said a word.”

He's not wrong. And if someone had shown up at a gay club and thrown a smoke bomb on the stage during a drag show, they would be hauled out on their ass and prosecuted with anything that could be thrown at them.

Good thing we live in a country that believes in equal rights for all. But some people are more equal than others it appears.

The only act of "hate" at his worship service was the person throwing a smoke bomb.

I dont support thuggery. I do support freedom of expression, even if I dont agree with it.

Mastercard refused to allow people to donate to Julian Assange. Blatant political interference.

I cut up my Mastercard.

Update: After reading the Collective Shout website, I completely changed my mind on what they're doing. I donated to them. The stuff they are campaiging against, specifically the game No Mercy is disgusting, glorifying rape of your mother and sisters? Who the hell thinks thats a "game"? Sick.

Thank you for a civilized and reasonable answer. There are some other small brained, rabid respondents here who could learn from you.

Well 'nationalizing' private property isn't exactly 'another way of doing things' it would be a complete makeover of our society's core values and very unlikely to happen with the consent of the owners of that property. So unless you're proposing forced compliance and starting a revolutionary war, how exactly would we "nationalize" trillions of dollars worth of private property?

Iran hasn't said that Jews should be wiped off the face of the earth? One quick google says otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/27/israel.iran

Im asking legitimate questions trying to understand an international crisis. Youre making massive assumptions based on your own prejudice.

Whoa. Whose denying anything? I'm asking questions.

Wrong country. If you want communism you gotta move to one of those super successful countries like North Korea. Good luck with that.

So where were they supposed to go after the Nazis tried to eliminate them? They dont have ancestral or religious ties to other European lands or America or Canada or Australia or Asia or Africa so where?