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  • I'm more interested in the evolution of systems or game theory than ideology. Or nitpicking about word definitions, after all most words have different meanings depending on context (how authoritarian of you to try to deny the meaning of my words haha).

    And yeah you'd need a large scale purge in the US. Nationalize all news and social media and turn them into democratic cooperatives with regulations and some kind of fund backing them, removing state control again. And maybe sortition to bypass the mechanisms in elections and politics that filters for those who are selfish and best at gaining power, but generally not good for other people. Getting money out of politics isn't enough, you need to get politics out of elections.

    I believe the general myopia in these times is partially because we're out of ideas in what to try. While a respect China's achievements, I wouldn't want to live there - and can't anyway because they just don't allow any immigration. Partially the CCPs success is because their and the people's goals are aligned (prosperity, education). So while I'm a socialist at heart, I don't believe in any of the various types of socialism or anarchism as a panacea either. Basically we're running out of time until climate change leads to global collapse and we do not even have any new system to try for after yet.

    I guess I'm mostly interested in "harm reduction" based on specific rules of a system, and based on new technology. E.g. a planned economy using modern IT, crowd polling, AI would be infinitely easier, more efficient and more democratic.

  • First, they came for all the motherfucking politicans. Then they came for the lobbyists, then the CEOs and billionaires and the propagandists and the corrupt judges. And if they haven't been beheaded yet, they had peace happily ever after!

  • True, the american dream, liberty, land of opportunity, make your own way, that's why people come. But it's a lie right? So can a lie be a culture? Or is it a mass delusion? Maybe, colonial settlers also went to the US despite knowing how dangerous it is to die on a wagon train (I mean dysentery, not indians haha). So taking a huge risk of catastrophic failure could bee seen as a culture.

  • Compared to that (strictly enforced quarantine for sick people) the US not only failed to stem the spread of the pandemic, the president and his cult expressively espoused dangerous quack medicine.

    Generally China organized regular food delivery to people in quarantine and had countless teams tracing infection. Meanwhile the US forced the "essential" lowest class workers to expose themselves and even encouraged their maga cult to spit on people to infect them.

    Countless preventable deaths are the result, plus even more people with lowered mental faculties from Covid. And then you elected the same cult leader again!

    I haven't been to China but that would only give you anecdotal stories. I also don't speak chinese or read chinese social media, but I can read statistics. But yeah, there is no "peace" but an uneasy acceptance of censorship in China.

  • That's important too, but that isn't just moving the goalpost, it's a completely different metric. But even if you're a staunch nationalist you might look at how Chinese people feel about the system and if you could replicate that system in Ghana.

  • What I meant is "having much power / authority without being accountable to some third party". And yeah, taking the mask off is the only good thing about Trump. The US will never get their image back.

    PS: The other good thing might be crashing the global economy might be positive for lowering GHG - but at what cost??? (haha)

  • Western democracy has revealed glaring problems with selecting governance, especially if the majority of the media is captured like in the US, and if elected officials have to beg special interest for money or be chosen / filtered through that process, or has to lie to the electorate. That China is doing relatively well despite being authoritarian, not having to be corrupted through that mechanism of election (an alternative might be sortition to prevent filtering for the worst vipers). But it's also lucky in that it's a "benign" authority still based on socialism and that it's not an enemy or plaything of the US. But even though it works for the people (for the people) it's not democratic (by the people)

    Partially that is because China derives it's treasure from the people so education and productivity are important and with that some quality of life. There are plenty of pro forma socialist governments that only care to enrich themselves based on natural resources and can just brutalize and neglect it's population. So it's not just because of socialist ideology, it's where the money is for China. And afaik China still has it's corruption problems.

  • China is authoritarian, but if you look only at the material conditions for democracy like prosperity, peace, education they are better than the US. People fundamentally want to exist and raise families in peace without constant terror, confusion and economic hardship. That is because even they are authoritarian, they can still "afford" to have pro-human or pro-national ideology. In the neoliberal countries choosing that over profit gets you fired or sidelined.

  • Hey, it's corporate genocide of poor innocent healthcare industries. It's just a new type of genocide after cultural genocide. You know the one perpetrated on evidence based science (climate change) and liberal values (equality).

  • I don't think you can call it a culture but propaganda to justify their personal greed and neoliberal policies. Basically sociopathy as an ideology for the elite, dressed up as "whatever" for the masses.

  • The F-droid app is complete garbage, also they don't make it easy to install apps that are open source but don't follow GPL. Obtainium is perfect, just point to git repository. Now all we need is a P2P source control service.

  • Saying Russia's rationale is supported by evidence like the NATO chief saying that and lots of other "non pro Russia" leaders. Just because it's a "banned" opinion in mainstream (not political correct) doesn't make it false, or make one a tankie, or pro-Russia.

    The problem is if you do not accept different viewpoints there is no space for negotiations or peace agreements, only questionable and bloody victory. And that little trick is the real 1984 for me, not the shit MAGA is pulling off. The entire mainstream and "left" have swallowed this narrative and attack anyone with different opinions with personal attacks, even if they have clear evidence supporting their opinions.

  • I feel the same. Besides what you mentioned, there is also the effect on what news and content will be produced and shown (see Manufacturing Consent). The advertisers who are the customers of shows want the viewers in a buying mood. So while "if it bleeds it leads" works fine but controversial topics that disturbs people or make them think will not be shown.

    Best example is youtube - once the demonetization came there must have been significant effects on what topics were discussed and how. Without sponsorings and patreon it would be worse, but this or rule is shaping our global civilization for the worse.

    People pay far too much attention to ideology, but it's the rules of a system that lead it to converge to different outcomes. And advertising is a big one.