Bongo_Stryker @ Bongo_Stryker @lemmy.ca

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More great reporting from Tyler Durden

A significant portion of New York's electricity is produced by burning natural gas and fuel oil. There are multiple hidden costs that fossil fuel advocates don't want you to think about: https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/hidden-costs-fossil-fuels

One of the objections to reducing emissions in the US came in the question "why should we pay more for everything and reduce emissions when China and other developing countries do whatever they want?" I think this is a valid question, tho not a valid excuse to dump more CO2 into the atmosphere. But it makes me think of a similar question:

Why should the rest of us finance New York's cheap power at the expense of our environment?

I'm getting really damn tired of having a choice between the conservative party cosplaying as liberals and the fascist party cosplaying as conservatives.

damn straight.

Well again there is a claim being made without evidence or explanation so what am I supposed to do here? Are you saying my personal experiences are not sufficient to form my opinions? Can you suggest a more reliable method of forming opinions?

I'll tell you what's not an opinion: killing civilians is a war crime. Aiding and abetting war crimes is also illegal. Plenty of assholes were found guilty of aiding and abetting war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in the former Republic of Yugoslavia. Theres people still doing jail time for providing weapons, logistics support and intelligence to those commiting atrocities. Check it out: there is a neat website for the successor to the criminal tribunals for Rwanda and Yugoslavia https://www.irmct.org/en/about

I understand you want to focus on precise language as a way of dodging any discussion of Americans being involved in any such nasty business. I don't think many people reading this will be so easily fooled. A fact is a fact, jack. Providing bombs you know will be dropped on children is not a morally ambiguous act.

Conservatives have always been champions of individual freedoms

I don't see evidence of that. I grew up in conservative family in a conservstive community. Conformity, rigid social and economic stratification seemed like the most important, foundational issues to my grandparents, my parents, and the community as a whole.

No Republicans or Democrats have participated in the Iseral Palestine conflict.

Deny all you like, however it is a fact of reality that if you supply weapons to someone you know will use then on unarmed noncombatant civilian women and children then you're complicit in those deaths.Thats a war crime.

The US birthrate has been dropping for decades and the current rate is not enough to replace the country's population. We need immigrants.

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

You make a good point that there is a difference between republican and conservative. It reminds me of those who confuse democrats with leftists, and conflate liberals with socialists.

I see that some of the examples given are not collective punishment, just good old fashioned persecution.

The claim was made that conservatives are against collective punishment, where is the evidence for that? I challenge that claim because it is nonsense.

Jackson was a member of the newly formed democratic-repiblican political party. Regardless, conservatives that seek to promote and preserve traditional institutions and values want to continue his legacy by calling for mass deportation. Sounds like collective punishment to me.

Eleven thousand air traffic controlers were asking for a fair wage, reduced mandatory overtime and higher safety standards that all Americans could rely on. Reagan fired them all. Seems like collective punishment to me.

Post 9/11 there was a surge in crimes and incidents of discrimination against Muslims, Sikhs, and persons of Arab and South-Asian descent, as well as persons perceived to be members of these groups. Where? Largely in conservative stronghold red states. More recently, didn't Donald call for a “total and complete shutdown” of the borders to Muslims? Smells like collective punishment to me.

Opposition to decriminalization of homosexuality and denial of rights for LGBTQ people is a pretty well known conservative position. Conservative-led legislation to deny lifesaving gender affirming care looks like collective punishment to me.

Both democrats and republicans alike have been complicit in the collective punishment of Palestinian people. According to U.N. data, of the casualties in Gaza, over 57% deaths were combined women and girls over 14, and children under 14.

The systematic killing of unarmed noncombatant civilian women and children continues. Where is conservative condemnation for the forced relocation and institutionalized murder of civilians?

So ridiculous. Germany should also pressure Russia to pay back Ukraine for all the damage done if that's how it works.

And I'll add to that list native Americans who legitimately feared genocide from the founding fathers that conservatives revere so much. Don't forget The Indian Removal Act signed by Andrew Jackson.

One of the conservative values is that people have rights and you shouldn’t punish people collectively.

Except that collective punishment is and has been happening to unarmed noncombatant civilian women and children. Human rights advocates are protesting that.

How the hell do you say this is a conservative value when conservatives routinely call for the collective punishment of:

• all gay people
• all trans people,
• all south american and mexican refugees fleeing authoritarian governments, brutal drug trafficking cartels and economic instability

*all Muslim people

*all Palestinian people in particular including innocent children

This is the part I find particularly reprehensible- 2000 pound bombs dropped on children is justified by "Israel's right to defend itself" and to protest this is "antisemitic".

Meanwhile "One of the conservative values is that people have rights and you shouldn’t punish people collectively."

This is the moral emptiness, duplicity and iniquity of American conservative politics.

You made me spit tea.

You're right, and I think there might be additional health benefits from adding it in, too!

I confess my comment wasn't my real opinion, but I'm sure that's what my grandmother would have said. She was always very concerned with appearances.

My actual answer: I have spent time in Dixie and drank a fair bit of chicory coffee. At that time I also smoked like a chimney so I wonder now how much I was able to smell and taste much of anything back then. I liked it fine but it was never my favorite go-to.

Since I quit smoking and live a generally more healthy life I find I have become a bit of a purist. I like my coffee to be coffee, as there is so much variety just within coffee that adding in other things seems to complicate the issue beyond what I'm willing to deal with.

But again, no shade at anyone who likes it.

Naw, that's fo' po' folks!

Biden-Harris released him. I have the transcript of the taped conversation:

HARRIS: Joe! Wake up!

BIDEN: Mmpf sorry, you were saying?

HARRIS: Well I'm getting so tired of curry, so I'm going to turn black and then I can eat-

LESBIAN TRANSGENDER BIPOC WHITEHOUSE STAFFER (THEY/THEM): Comrades!, we captured that serial killer. What should we do with him?

BIDEN Zzzzzz

HARRIS: Joe! Wake up!

BIDEN: Yes sir, Xi- Oh sorry, what?

HARRIS: Does this serial killer hate America?

LESBIAN TRANSGENDER BIPOC WHITEHOUSE STAFFER (THEY/THEM): Yes, he swore it on Marx's beard.

BIDEN Let him go!

HARRIS: Yes let him go!

LESBIAN TRANSGENDER BIPOC WHITEHOUSE STAFFER (THEY/THEM): Slaaay!

I see. Was that really communism, following communist principles? Seems like they just called it that as an excuse to steal farms and change the ruling class to themselves.

Anyway I have also been fortunate enough to meet people from all around the world, including someone from North Korea and someone from Congo. They told me how bad democratic republics are.

Funny, I hear homelessness has also skyrocketed.

How about inoculation against falun gong?

So lying, basically.

Editi : ok sorry, I obviously made assumption w/o information. You had the kids talk to someone who lived in a kibbutz?

I think intelligence/personality are about even for me. I think I would not have rejected my wife if she were average intelligence, but the fact that she has a science background, and the quick way she thinks are part of the package that I fell for. So I will say very important, but not the most important.