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Homeowner baffled after washing machine uses 3.6GB of internet data a day
  • Setting a timer is more of a hassle than having my washing machine notify me when it's done - however is most convenient for me. Due to the layout of my home, I am unable to hear the washing machine directly. And setting a timer on my phone sounds like a pain in the ass. And sometimes my wife or kids started a load and I don't know when they did that, but I need to do some laundry myself, so I need to know if the washer is free but I don't want to go all the way to the basement to find out.

    Luckily, my washer connects to my Wi-Fi and, unfortunately, to the Internet. I very much like that it will notify me on my smart devices around the house and on my phone. It's actually a great feature. Similarly, I can see my next oven notifying me when it's preheated. Similar reasons - might be doing laundry or out of earshot when it's ready to cook.

    The problem here isn't the feature itself. It's undeniably useful. The issue is that LG's programmers somehow wrote code that resulted in a tremendous amount of web traffic considering the extremely limited data that could possibly be collected by a washing machine. Think about every tiny thing you did today and write it all down in great detail. You could probably write a short novel if you really tried. And all that can be written to a file less than 1MB in size. The washing machine did not, could not collect that amount of private information about you without also sending audio and/or video. And I'm going to go ahead and assume it has neither microphones or cameras.

    So, in the end, this is pretty clearly a programming error. My guess: The washing machine sent a json file containing:

    • The status of the washer (basic functionality)
    • the ssid's and signal strengths of every nearby WiFi and Bluetooth signal (this is personal data they'd sell - which is gross)
    • Mac address, rtt, ip address, and dns address of every device on the LAN (this is more personal data they'd sell - which is still gross) *Basic hardware health data including counters for how many cycles it has ran in its lifetime, how long it's been running, total revolutions of each motor, temperature, and humidity readings (more basic functionality)

    And, due to a programming error, it sent this exact same data every second, uncompressed, all day, every day, until the stupid thing gets updated with a firmware patch.

    My point is, that's simply not useful data to collect at that sort of frequency. It's true - LG wants that data , but it absolutely does not want that data sent to their servers every millisecond of every day. They want it probably once per hour. Maybe even once every 5 minutes. LG doesn't want 4GB(!) of the exact same data. Collecting and storing data costs real money and infrastructure.

    TLDRB I'm going to guess that someone screwed up on the coding side and that's how you get such egregious amounts of network traffic from a washing machine.

    But the one I own does a great job of notifying me and doesn't show the same traffic patterns. So I still think those and features are useful. Eventually you'll probably be glad to have them in your appliances too. There's a ton of use cases for it and it's quickly becoming standard since the technology is incredibly cheap to produce.

    Source: a programmer

  • They came for Florida’s sun and sand. They got soaring costs and a culture war.
  • Definitely move back. Do whatever you can to avoid getting stationed in Phoenix. Whatever good it might do for your career just isn't worth the inevitable misery you'll experience getting into your car after it's been baking in the desolate expanse all day.

  • They came for Florida’s sun and sand. They got soaring costs and a culture war.
  • That's exactly what I was implying. I used to live there - the asphalt would be hot to the touch at night and outright dangerous to touch with bare skin during the day. The heat island effect made for an unbearable outside temperature for most of the year.

    I'll never understand people who want to live in the desert; plants can't even survive there. Phoenix is a monument to man's arrogance.

  • Wife of Judge on Mifepristone Case Was Paid by Anti-Abortion Group
  • How are people like you still both-sides-ing for upvotes when one of those two parties is filled with literal fascists and Nazis and the other just forgave billions of dollars worth of student debt? Wake the fuck up. Your false equivalence only serves to help the fascists. Unless, of course, that is your goal?

  • Kyle Rittenhouse storms off stage after being confronted by students
  • Hang on - in your analogy, the 17 year old kid is the battered wife and the black strangers - miles away and across state lines - are his abusers? Suggesting the kid was somehow a victim here? Like he spent his whole life being tortured by his abusive spouse (black strangers)?

    da fuq?

  • Teacher who resigned after her OnlyFans page was discovered says new employer fired her for violating social media policy
  • I'm not the person you are replying to, but I take your point and agree with you in principle. However, you didn't really address their point that $42k is the median household income in her area. So at least half the households (not just individuals) are trying it. But I don't know how it's working out for them.

    Perhaps that region is quite affordable or has a low cost of living or is crime ridden, idk.

  • Mar-a-Lago Judge: Jury Sees Top Secret Files or Trump Wins
  • This makes me a bit excited to see a court rule that a sitting president is immune. If that happens (it won't), I would expect Biden to immediately take full advantage of his newfound powers and publicly announce a dead or alive bounty for a whole slew of right-wing fascists currently holding or running for public office. That particular ruling could really solve this little Nazi problem that's been developing here in the US.

    "Good news, Mr Trump! You're off the hook since one of those obviously illegal things you did were crimes because you had presidential immunity. Hey, while I have you...."

  • Christian actress spent 5 years in court defending her right to make anti-LGBTQ+ comments. She just lost.
  • "Opposing beliefs" is often just coded language for extremely offensive, factually inaccurate, demonstrably dangerous, and often indefensible speech. Social media companies aren't obligated to keep posts about Jewish space lasers, Holocaust denialism, and pro-fascist ideologies on their servers.

    Social media advertisers don't want their product advertisements appearing adjacent to batshit, nonsensical, conspiratorial, alt-right bullshit.

    Having a Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, or Instagram account isn't a right and having it taken away doesn't make you a victim. Nobody owes anyone else a platform to spew toxicity to the masses.

    I'm using the royal "you" btw. I'm not saying you, specifically, are a Trump supporting crybaby.

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  • I once worked at a police department (wasn't a cop) in a very rural area. The officers regularly responded to calls to put down stray dogs who were injured or sick.
    But yeah also for fun when raiding the wrong house.

  • Bernie Sanders unveils 32-hour workweek bill with no loss in pay for workers
  • Yup. These "free market" folks conveniently forget that competition is bolstered when there's a floor. An impartial referee to call balls, strikes, and fouls. A set of rules everyone has to play by, or they don't get to play at all.

    Also known as regulation.

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