Why Democrats think Biden’s problem is Biden

And collectively shot themselves in the dick for the sake of Hillary Clinton, letting Trump win 2016.

Who were they supposed to force to run, and how were they supposed to do that? Biden initially talked about being a single term president. Only running again if necessary. The only Democrat that really chose to try to primary was Dean Phillips. Who recently begged a state governor to pardon trump. Biden already appeases fascists too much. With Phillips begging a state Governor to Pardon their leaders crimes. I can see why Biden would run again.

I actually have some hope that there will be some decent Democratic candidates in 2028 if we can get there and still be holding elections.

Every man who's been president has the "I must complete two terms" stuck on loop in his brain. And that kind of thinking short-circuits critical thinking skills that would/could otherwise see their own selfish stupidity.

We have the same issue in France. The problem is there is no more negotiation with the legislative, everything gets voted on party lines, and what little gets done happens via executive orders. How can viable candidates emerge in this climate? It's maddening.

I don't know how they have not prepped Sen Whitehouse to run. Dude should win based on his name alone.

If you recognize that you’re stuck in a FPTP system, then voting for the least-worst option from the two major parties is the thing that is in your best interests.

Maybe. I don't really want President Harris either. She'd be in the same boat as NYC mayor Eric Adams: a "tough on crime" Democrat that hurts more than helps.

I have no idea about the Biden side (although people having no idea what he has to run on is more of a media thing than a what-he's-done thing). But I'm confident saying that Trump dying before the election would be a catastrophe for the Republicans.

The GOP rank and file has figured out at this point that most people in Washington don't represent them. It's all just weirdos in suits who are making emotionally manipulative commercials and taking their money and health care and jobs and leaving them with nothing. I think a lot of Trump's appeal was that, whatever his flaws, he definitely wasn't one of those pod people, so there was quite a lot of appeal to the idea of sending him to Washington and if he wrecks the place like a deer trapped in a subway car then oh well nothing of value was lost.

I don't think they were right about the harmlessness of Trump destroying things, but the understanding of Washington that underlay the core calculus wasn't totally off base. DeSantis has enough authentic stupid meanness to be able to appeal to them a little bit, but he can't hide that at his core he's just another scumbag in a suit, and for anyone else (Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz and Matt Gaetz), I think they're gonna say in record numbers you know what brother man I'm gonna pass.

Trump dying after he gets in office, and all the machinery of Project 2025 falling into the hands of someone who's not the world's most useless and failure prone individual, would on the other hand be an absolute global catastrophe.

And his approach is increasingly flawed, as he has backed an apparent genocide which sounds absolutely like something Trump would do. I keep hearing soooo many whataboutisms when mentioning this, about how Trump would be worse, about how questioning this could put Trump back in office if it causes people to not vote for Biden, etc. But that's the issue, as Biden was elected largely because he was seen as a pretty nice guy who was pretty decently prepared for the role, and specifically would try to fix the problems Trump created. And to be fair, he has fixed a ton of them and has overall decent track record of recovery for the country. However, it's pretty clear he's trying to bow to AIPAC so that they don't try to tank the democrats in the next election, and in turn it is greatly tarnishing their reputation, more so than I think they've realized.

I think if Biden dies the Dem debate performance might actually get worse.

The entire ticket falling into the Bermuda triangle would work out well though.

Yup.

It's a tough position to be in. He came in with 2 years of apocalypse to undo, and 45 years of neoliberal betrayal and exploitation to contend with, and he actually made a significant amount of progress in the face of those obstacles; so as a result I'm sure when he hears "Biden sucks on the economy, we want Trump back, those were great days and nothing good has happened since then" from news networks to whom unions and manufacturing jobs mean nothing in terms of economic priority, he wants to push back on it

But you're not wrong about the optics of trying to tell anyone things are good for working people in America

I'm not sure you're making an argument you think you are here. Clinton felt your pain and then he deregulated the banking industry to the point that we have many of the problems we have today. Not to mention his dismantling of social programs . Clinton's only second to Reagan among presidents who are the cause of many of our current economic woes.

That's almost always the case. It's because "generic x" doesn't have any baggage or negatives and people just project whatever positives they want onto it.