The constant negativity is killing me
The constant negativity is killing me
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16505133
The constant negativity is killing me
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16505133
Actually Star Wars fans aren't that bad
Someone downvoted you for that opinion. I don't even know where the stereotype comes from. Every star wars fan I've seen just wants to talk about Star wars. They're not toxic or anything in my experience, they're just really into star wars.
There’s a reason that the term “Fandom Menace” and the saltierthancrait subreddit are things.
As a fan since the 80’s, and a woman, I’ve seen my fair share of toxicity, but nothing will compare to the level it’s gotten since the release of the sequels. I also hated the sequels, but goddamn the level of hate towards the actors themselves was just awful. There were many valid technical reasons to criticize those movies - diversity wasn’t one of them.
It’s definitely made us all look like idiots regardless if you were a part of the drama or not.
Sure, it kind of goes with the characterisation. Most ex-Star Wars fans are a sour lot though. Why can't they just accept that one era is over and the franchise is in a different place. Sure I'm sad that the style of Star Wars I grew up with is not only over, but actively being dismantled. But that's been going on for close to 30 years.
It's a simple fix for grown-ups: There hasn't been any Star Wars movies made since the 80's. And if you subjectively disagree, you're objectively wrong as per any fandom law.
People have hope and heart for Star Wars ... hope that got rekindled by a spark here and there like Andor and The Mandalorian's early seasons. So the fans get pulled back in.
But soon after Disney brings pain again, and it is always on purpose, usually from very bad writing that should not have seen the green light, and lousy planning.
It's the casual fans who are bad imo. The ones who hate everything except the OT. And they just constantly talk about how Disney has ruined Star Wars because the only thing they watched was the numbered movies.
Disney has ruined Star Wars. Everything outside of the main 6 is questionable
Have you seen the acolyte? Their anger is justified.
Ironic you say that because it's proven that the actors and staff of The Acolyte (and some in the Kenobi series as well) never saw a bit of star wars and have no basic knowledge of the property.
So it is an issue that fans complain how badly written the Acolyte is for the budget, even if they only heard about it from others or seeing clips, but it is no issue the cast and staff don't know a single thing about Star Wars lore but do force their own mind-canon of star wars on the fans ... ?
The Acolyte is the best series since Andor, but that isn't saying much. I think 6/10 is far to generous and given the pattern these shows follow, it's only going to get worse.
DOTA fans are worse.
If they wanted a good fanbase, they need to make good content. Unfortunately the last good movie was released in 1983.
Naw, Rogue One was passable, never mind the few dumb fan service quips. Andor is straight up good. Mando was acceptable.
The rest? Yeaaahh... Disney has added little quality to the universe. At least George expanded the universe in ways that felt natural to the universe, even if he did it like a huge dork.
Disney keeps pulling a Hollywood and making things about grand spectacle with the thinnest of stories and actual plot holes everywhere. It's ... genuinely sad to see a multi BILLION dollar company squander and shit on such an expensive IP. You'd think they'd at least understand they paid a shitload for it and shouldn't devalue it with garbage productions.
I also liked Rogue One. At least it wasn’t straight up stupid. Andor was amazing. Mandalorian had a promising start then caved to cuteness.
Everything else since Disney bought Star Wars has been forgettable.
Meesa takes issue with yousa tastes
Idk man I thought the one from 2005 was pretty good
I thought it was swifties or k-pop fans.
Yeah it's pretty bad. People harassing actors and other people involved is disgusting. I'm also not the biggest fan of some of the new content, but sometimes it seems like a significant portion the fanbase just wants to hate on everything.
I am going to leave this example here, it shows a then and now, and ask you, who is being toxic, where does the toxicity start, every time, far before a project is launched? Because there was no negative fan backlash before these interviews aired.
https://youtu.be/qCtwjmuXu2E?si=XJuu1SEtHCd_NKom
(No I am not affiliated with the channel, it just presents a striking example)
Also, tell me why hire such incompetent people shown here and such writers while there is an astronomical budget? Why shouldn't people get angry about it?
And also ask plain why, why insult your fanbase and your product like that and play innocent when the fans pick up their pitchforks.
This is a billion dollar company that IS ABLE to produce quality content, but it chooses to pump out this junk every time, why?
I think most fandoms are pretty bad. Here are a few I've interacted with in the past and their "outbursts".
Even small fandoms can be pretty toxic places, like most places in public. I don't know what it is about bringing like-minded people together, but it usually ends up in small pockets of them attacking others that share something in common with them...
Harry Potter fandom is horrible too
Blame the mouse and his focus groups, not fans who are upset with their beloved franchise getting skull fucked.
Is mercury really one of the most toxic substances? I used to play around with it as a kid.
By itself maybe not. But dimethilmercury is scary AF.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning
It is toxic
Not sure what degrees of toxicity are measured in,like is there a Richter scale of toxicity
I tried to think of a witty measurement but it's late and I've had a hard day so I'm going to bed instead.
Hopefully you had a great night's sleep!
lol holy shit, just yesterday I made a comment on some SW thread about how some fans have been proven to be toxic (citing the bigotry a few of the actors were subjected to) and I got fucking blasted with angry responses. Yeah they’re toxic- and tribal about it.
Based
Imagine being a fan of any multinational fan fiction group. Lmao
Jar-Jar did nothing wrong!
You mean Darth Jar Jar?
This is outrageous AND unfair. How can you be an star wars fan and be toxic?