1y ago

You mean it was never about saving Ukraine from Vladolf Putler's unprovoked Aggression?

https://nitter.poast.org/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1799832487285465244#m

Isn't it odd that Lindsey Graham went to Ukraine 2 years into their civil war, which started after a coup which put Poroshenko into power, in order to push the case for war with Russia? And that he was accompanied on that trip by

and

's dad?

maybe if we conscript 100,000 more 45 year olds Ukraine can win back Donbass and finally ~~finish removing the undesirables and separatists who live there~~ help the citizens heal

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Vladimir Putin cannot be allowed to access that money and those resources because he will share it [sic] with China.
The famously mineral resource poor country of Russia.
- it's a gas station pretending to be a country
  
  The war is the same as when the local Shell Gas Station launches a massive military campaign against the local farmer for killing the chicken he hates on the daily.
- I mean, by that logic, USA has no business in Middle East. 🛢️🛢️🛢️
Why do they always say this sooner or later? They said it with Iraq, with Afghanistan, with Libya, with Syria, with Xinjiang, with the DPRK...they always say it. It's like they have some uncontrollable compulsion to admit that they're just doing it to steal another nation's resources.
The thing I really don't get is how they say this every goddamn time and the libs still always fail to catch onto it.
- the real reason
  Look, Jack, I'm seeing many real reasons (geopolitical interests in position by Europe and U.S against Russia, further shock therapy and economic domination by the west, resources and so forth)
- The libs understand on some level that the plunder of resources is required to maintain their standard of living, or in this age, mitigate its inevitable decline.
- so you know how in election season politicians tout their accomplishments for reelection? "we put in that new park" "improved bike lanes & new buses"
  well they can't do all the messaging to their actual corporate constituencies in private, it's a lot of trouble and looks conspiratorial if it comes out. but this is no great trouble, because the private media is not going to emphasize & will bury this after it reaches the appropriate audiences of corporate donors
between this and boris johnson just outright saying a russian victory in the war would mean the end of western hegemony, they're really just coming out and saying the quiet parts out loud now i feel. its like they cant even be bothered to do the whole Democracy and Freedom spin anymore.
- Broad mass of libs is still in denial. I mean we already had Stoltenberg saying it months ago but every time @yogthos@lemmy.ml point it out to them he gets downvoted and called putlerbot.
  And about this here i can already predict what they will say, the meaning of the words will completely whoosh past them and they will just say that it is only an confirmation that Putin wanted the same and thus NATO have to stop him yadda yadda blah blah
  
  The iron rule of liberals is that they're against every war except the one that's currently happening.
- They can say those things because it is assumed those things are good. And a lot of people believe that.
Gonna be honest, I've never heard the "Vladolf" part before. You mean to tell me that libs managed to come up with a portmanteau with multiple letters of overlap including a vowel?
- Vladolf
  I never heard that either. It certainly has swagger. "Putler" has none.
  
  LIBERALS are getting good at COMEDY and it's making HEXBEAR NERVOUS
  Death to America
  
  Personally, I like "TrumPutLer". It's unhinged, and includes all the liberal bad guys

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