Man detained in mental hospital after trying to set up Pakistan’s first gay club
Man detained in mental hospital after trying to set up Pakistan’s first gay club
Leaked application prompts fury among residents and politicians as gay sex remains illegal in country
He's crazy for trying, yet also based as hell
I mean... You gotta be crazy to try and open a gay night club in a place that criminalizes being gay and not expect to be detained or even killed. I get it's likely a form of protest, I'm just not sure what their desired outcome was.
They have more balls than me for trying.
For his next act, a swingers club in Saudi Arabia
Global news coverage and maybe some light martyrdom on the side?
But don’t they have dances where they have sex with young boys?
In their defense, you'd have to be insane to open a gay club in Pakistan.
Or any Muslim majority country.
"Religion of peace".
People are always surprised that I'm against Muslim immigrants. I don't get it. I'm gay, seems pretty obvious to be against those who would rather I die. And I'm not against middle eastern immigrants. But Muslims? I have enough trouble with the Christians. Please keep your even more backward, fucked up religion in your shitty countries; which are only shitty because they are led by a backward, fucked up religion.
It sounds like a clever provocation, and he probably made sure it catches attention before they can silently move it under the carpet. He didn't do any crime, he even proposed compromises to make it seem OK and followed official procedures, so they can't (now, publicly) presecute him by law, but it offended their homophobia that much they found nothing more clever than dropping him into a mental yard instead of, like, declining his idea for some made up reason. What's that if not a high-risk high-reward prank activism? At least, we now know that the state of Pakistan loses it's shit over him touching that nerve.
TBH the information I gleamed from this is that Pakistan somehow has mental hospitals when much of the USA lacks that sort of amenity.
I would not put too much faith in the quality of their care.
Still better than the Gulag, but yeah my heart goes out to gay club man.
If you live in the US and experience a psychotic episode, a suicidal crisis, or another mental health emergency - where do you go?
Real answer? Social Services is probably the number to call unless there is a emergency medical issue in which case just regular 9-1-1.
Likely you will either ride in an ambulance or with two social workers in a car to the hospital. 24-48 hours out-patient while you are stabilized. If it is a temporary situation, say you had an insanely high fever and were delirious you would just go home. If it wasn't temporary highly likely assigned a case manager for placement.
Despite what you see in the movies/TV you will not be thrown into an mental institution you will not be forced to take a cocktail of drugs that make you a zombie.
Deinstitutionalization is a good thing. The US lacks community treatment. We don’t need to go back to locking people up
What?? We desperately need mental health institutions back. No, we don't need the romanticized victorian dungeons, but what we do need is an alternative to jails. Secure treatment facilities. We have... four, on the west coast. Two of which have at most ~160 beds. The priority waiting list for admission is decades long (no, that isnt an exaggeration) and there isn't a non-priority waiting list. If you're not a priority, you just go to jail!
Community treatment is critical and we totally lack anything like it, but good god deinstitutionalization was one of the biggest public health and social equity diasters this country has ever had.
His mistake was not having a contact within the army leadership.
It was "not a mistake" for army leadership to not having a contact with the dude.
Glad we supported the Pakistani coup and decided to recognize the illegitimate and fraudulent Pakistani elections where they jailed Imran Khan.
And now we get bonus points for being able to whine about the right wingers we're supporting!
I’m not saying his overall intent was a bad one. But if you try something like that, in a country like Pakistan, you do kinda deserve to be in a mental hospital. I understand trying to spread acceptance and provide a safe place to go for those not accepted by the local society at large, but maybe there are better, even slightly more accepting places where this kind of idea would pan out. I feel like this is equivalent to opening a dispensary in Thailand.
Honestly, better being committed to a hospital where he can't be killed by a mob.
I'm all for fighting for human rights, but you have to fight. Just hoping for the best is never going to end well.
Opening the club was the fight. Because all the reason the commenter above you said.
He maybe should've known that it wouldn't work, but does he 'deserve' to be in a mental hospital? Absolutely not.
Lemmy: protest groups have every right to block ambulances in the English-speaking world. If people die they die.
Also Lemmy: we have to respect the homophobia of Islam because Christopher Hitchens supported the Iraq War 21 years ago.
The first queer people here got fired from their jobs and left largely destitute. They were the ones that started the first gay societies and the first protests in front of the White House. Throughout the decades, many were fired, arrested, or died from poor health or deaths of despair.
Someone always has to take the first step.
I recommend reading The lavender scare, it's extremely relevant right now, and I had to keep checking the copyright date because the same shit is happening the same way it happened in the 50s.
Its a crazy thing to try in a mullahville. Those guys hate anyone who isn't their particular flavor. Pretty much like baptist with more power.
It’s kinda ridiculous, I hate that Islamic countries fail the separation of religion and state test. Education is a great way to change it, and just aiming to make people less religiously inclined.
Islam was designed to be all encompassing. A separation of religion and state is anathema to Islam.
Doesn’t matter, and same can be said of any religion. What matters is educating people and making them prefer secular states.
It worked for Turkey... until recently...
Not sure why he thought that was a good idea. Being gay is fine but Pakistan not the best place.
- Man: Hi, I'm from Pakistan. May I move here?
- Other country: No.
- Man: I guess I'll have to open a club in Pakistan.
I imagine to make a point.
I don't think I know what progress looks like anymore.
Read the book Psychiatric Slavery by psychiatrist Thomas Szasz. Limitless Peace!
Permanently Deleted