The redditor "Tienanmen Square massacre" narrative is flat earther levels of crank shit and needs to be recognized as such.
The redditor "Tienanmen Square massacre" narrative is flat earther levels of crank shit and needs to be recognized as such.
This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the "10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter" bs are cranks. It's jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn't real level of crank shit and unless you're feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.
My favourite bit is when Wikipedia itself is like "the 10,000 claim was made by one dude who basically instantly retracted it and claimed the still unplausibly high number of 2,000".
Also, the Tank Man photographer talks about the protestors throwing molotov cocktails and beating police officers to death.
And the whole "China pretends it didn't happen"...they have official death estimates. 300 people. The US have their own estimate. 900 people. But no matter the number, it was much fewer than the protest leaders had hoped for.
To quote one of the protest leaders "What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling
By the way, that person is alive and well running a firm that fires people for not praying at work.
@daveywaveyboy@feddit.nl care to elaborate how this is "racist and batshit"?
The only famous video/image 99.9% of all Americans see of it is tank man NOT getting run over by a tank, and even then so many of them will be like “um yeah you don’t want to know what happens after the video cuts off” but the full video DOESNT CUT OFF AND HE JUST WALKS AWAY UNHARMED.
Meanwhile in America if you google “NYPD running over protestors” your results will be like:
-NYPD running over protestors May 2024
-NYPD running over protestors February 2024
-NYPD running over protestors December 2023
-NYPD running over protestors October 2023
-NYPD running over protestors March 2023
And so on and so on, and that’s just in one city
I think one of the interesting things about Tinyman and the tankman picture in particular is the mass psychosis (sorry if there's a better non-ableist term I currently can't conjure it) that the man in the picture was ran over by the tank. It's a claim that can be categorically disproven by 15 seconds of video. But it contradicts the hegemonic narrative, so it's like the video isn't real, the vibes are more real than hard evidence that this man was allowed to just walk.
If anyone wants a good example of this brainworm freshly-regurgitated by our .World friends: https://lemmy.world/comment/10437862
Tankies, famous for pretending Tank Man media exists only in the form of one picture. Also one of them says "Peking" for some fucking reason.
I wish I still had the screenshot from a few years ago when they went really big on pushing against censorship by spamming the post and damn near everything on the front page was that pic and it stayed that way for days all while the comments were full of people saying reddit won't let you see this as it was damn near the only thing you could see on reddit. Now they repeat it every anniversary.
What do we really expect from a site who's main protest against changes to it was spamming John Oliver memes and then wondering how they lost.
https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php (rare dub for Columbia)
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Haha enjoy getting banned from the internet
Here's a good aggregation of sources, many of the mainstream western press:
https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/
some of the lib-friendly sources used:
https://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_myth_of_tiananmen.php
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/there-was-no-tiananmen-square-massacre/
Literally is on the same level. Like you got people who think the DPRK is one giant stage show put on to fool people that it's a functional country. Then you got the same people who believe the earth is flat and NASA doctors the space shuttle footage ahead of time to keep the proles from knowing the truth.
Sorry comrades, I'm absolutely clueless
Can someone please explain this event to me? I know it's grossly exaggerated and there's some CIA elements to it like operation yellowbird but I can't seem to get over the rut of smuglord fucks enthusiastically using it to shut me down when we have a discussion.
It's been wild watching reddit get more and more outrageous every year. It's like a yearly holiday for redditors where they try to make up the craziest bullshit they can and then all agree to believe it.
We talking about the reddit thread from today? https://old.reddit.com/r/Art/comments/1d7xfil/why_tyrannies_will_not_prevail_andre_ryerson/
Honestly, to my knowledge of the events, what actually happened with the crackdowns on "riots" was already really bad BUT was it worse than what the US does regularly? Including just recently sending in armed hogs to tear gas and stomp children? Of course not. And that's why the reddit Nazi types have to keep lying otherwise the narrative of "America good" (in contrast to all existing evidence) requires never admitting the truth or even looking at what happened or anything... just pathetic racism in the end. Same as people who think immigrants are "genociding" white people. Batshit insane stuff.
