EU approval for chat control
EU approval for chat control
We need to do something against this. The EU plans to apply a law for a chat control in the territory. The approval say that all the chats and the emails would be send to the government to do AI scanning to in fact “find the children abuses”, even when using apps with end-to-end encryption (the EU will ask the services to open their secrets keys… we know that Microsoft, Google and Facebook have already agreed to this. On the other hand Signal for example had said that they would leave the EU if this law will be applied). We need to counter this, because this restrict the privacy and the security of the citizens. Even if you’re not living in the EU, you should take a look because that could encourage others to do the same! Please take a look of the situation and make you your own idea of the case. Find out here the votes results for now, by countries and more... mepwatch.eu
Some others organizations criticized the approval, a open letter/petition was posted here : globalencryption.org
PS : I know that this was posted on the community a bit before (https://lemmy.world/post/16093632) but I think this is really important and the people should know it. That's a really regrettable decision for the population. thx
As nobody has mentioned this yet. Vote! On Sunday all Germans vote on their representation in the EU. Vote for the pirate party or another progressive party. Vote out the grandpa's and grandma's that want to "protect" their adult children.
Absolutely right
VOLT is fine too!
I agree
Volt do not have https://patrick-breyer.de
Wait, you guys have a pirate party over there? That's actually really cool
I wish our parties over here in the states were more interesting like that (also that we have more of them and need a completely different system but that's besides the point)
As most child abuse happens in the homes by the parents or relatives, when can we expect 24/7 surveilance in our homes?
Oh wait its not about protecting children, is it?
They say that it's about to protect children but that ask a big question for our privacy
You DID read 1984, right?
I would say it's not far behind.
an open letter already signed by multiple privacy-focused companies and digital rights organizations: https://www.globalencryption.org/2024/05/joint-statement-on-the-dangers-of-the-may-2024-council-of-the-eu-compromise-proposal-on-eu-csam/
edit: also, contact your representation: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo
thank you
Another day, another stupid fucking government surveillance overreach
So here in the states, teens who are romantically active sometimes sext each other (sometimes even as an alternative to actual sex). But law enforcement is very fond of regarding it as CSAM, even to the point of convicting teenagers of distribution. Of all fifty states, only Maine has carved out a defense for teen couples utilizing their phone cameras in a way that is ragingly common among adults.
All fifty states have Romeo and Juliet laws so they recognize that teens sometimes have sex. But as it is, they're not allowed to sext. (also R+J laws often don't apply to same-sex couples).
So I'm all curious how the EU plans to tackle this revelation
So I'm all curious how the EU plans to tackle this revelation
They do not. At all.
So as per the rest of western cultures, they freak out and abuse teens when they engage in normal sexual activity? Do they imprison them the way they do here?
I'm worried too but I doubt countries who voted against it will just lie down and turn over. I'm sure local courts will fight this on the grounds of national privacy laws. And just because the EU wishes this to be a thing doesn't mean it's happening too. The technological groundwork needs to be developed for this and I can imagine that some service will drag their feet at implementing that. At least that's my unicorn utopia with rainbows I currently live in to bear this reality 🫠
The EU will already have projects in development as far as my experience goes.
What I do not know though but think applies: Such an act is legally binding for all member states. If they fight these things, they are allowed to propose at the EU court for adjustment in order to be aligned with the national law. This can postpone the national implementation for a few years.
But it can only be revoked by a new act of the EU council.
And they can simply ignore any new suggestion of the EU parliament if they like to.
If this law passes I will delete What's App. I don't fucking care how many contacts I will loose. Matrix it is then.
You know even without the law should consider deleting whatsapp and switched to signal or other private stuff
Spain has consistently been a major proponent of mandating this stuff, from what I've read in the past. I assume that this relates to wanting to deal with their secessionist movements.
That could be the reason. In this case the Germany the Poland and the Austria are refusing the approval
Results of last voting, so you know who not to choose on Sunday:
Well... fuck
Maybe try getting an MEP for Greens/EFA or the Left?
In Poland it's not great either... But I'm positively surprised that 3 guys from PiS voted against it. That gives us 4 to 41. Not great, as I said before...
I'm relieved that the group I wanted to vote was against. I'm frightened that it was the only one against in France 😱
Which group in France is against? I consider making this issue a top priority for choosing who I vote for.
80% for, as in "in favour of scanning", or am I misinterpreting something?
No, I think that's corrext because our conservative CDU/CSU party voted in favor and we all know how those ultra-conservative christians vote.
At least it reinforced my preferred party...
Just for the record, a post title usually lets you know what the content will be about.
I've changed it maybe it was a bit too teaser
Thanks bruv!
i put my real name, the eu would be surprised.
"... we know that Microsoft, Google and Facebook have already agreed to this."
Wait, what?
from the article:
So far only some unencrypted US communications services such as GMail, Facebook/Instagram Messenger, Skype, Snapchat, iCloud email and X-Box apply chat control voluntarily (more details here)
Glad I have long ago transitioned to my own email domain...
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Maybe try to seduce policemen being better at sexting?
Jokes on them! I haven’t has sext in years.
That's not the point, though, now is it.
So session, signal or telegram. OK.
First telegram is not private.
And then Signal would not keep his EU market if this law applied, for session and all more independents services they could maybe go trough this law... but even with this it's a big no-no
Telegram is an FSB cafe.
Signal's CEO has already said they will leave the EU if the law passes.
Session is cool but sometimes unreliable in the delivery.
SimpleX is also quite interesting. But I don't use it enough to say something about the reliablity.