A lot of ins, a lot of outs, a lot of what-have-yous
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Ain't nobody saying that
Bruh people say that here... on lemmy... all the time.
Yeah a lot of the .ml guys love genocide when the victims are Ukrainians or Uyghurs. Or Palestinians, they want Donald in office to help Israel genocide faster.
I'm going to start collecting receipts for the very next time I see a comment like this, because people are definitely saying that.
I don’t think many people are saying that the morality of a genocide is complicated, but I think plenty of people ARE saying that classifying a genocide when no two look alike and both sides of the current conflict obfuscate and lie about the facts is complicated. A lot of people are saying that responding to a genocide occurring within an entrenched conflict in one of the most volatile regions on the globe where nearly every major world power has involvement and interests IS complicated. Many of those saying that international diplomacy is complicated understand that when the most important allies of a nation violating human rights pull their support too hard or too fast that that nation is likely to accelerate its plans to try and accomplish its goals before further repercussions prevent it.
We certainly shouldn’t let these complexities prevent us from speaking out regarding what we feel is right, but pretending they don’t exist only serves the most cynical and self-serving of political interests. Resolving human rights abuses is always more complicated than slapping a genocide or not genocide label on the situation and saying “genocide bad” or “not genocide okay.”
The next Israel thread you see, go point out how Biden is a piece of shit for supporting a genocide and see what happens
Yeah but nobody is saying genocide isn't always bad. They may try to pretend it's not genocide. Or that it would be genocide with trump too. Just not what the meme suggests
People being cagey about language that discourages turnout is not the same as condoning genocide, if anything it's being paranoid about the genocide coming here too.
Leftist have famously never committed genocide. That's why I am a leftist, because there are no examples of them doing anything bad.
Could be either liberals or tankies, depending on which genocide(s) they defend
liberals or tankies, depending on which genocide(s) they defend
The only difference between the two is what governments they defend...
So, yeah, obviously.
I don't know why people act like "tankies" are some unique subset.
They're people that lie about being on the left while supporting authoritian politicians no matter what they do.
The fact that they do it with China isn't that different than the ones who do it for other countries. They're doing the exact same shit.
People want to keep shuffling all these labels around and pretending shits different just because the label is.
They're the same types of people doing the same shit. They don't all need their own group.
It's like when right wingers say they can't be a nazi because they never invaded the Champagne region of France...
Idk I think their reasoning and ideology differs, and thus, so do valid counter arguments.
I thought it was weird choice of pic for this meme but I upvoted for the title.
Ain't nobody saying that
Bruh people say that here... on lemmy... all the time.
Yeah a lot of the .ml guys love genocide when the victims are Ukrainians or Uyghurs. Or Palestinians, they want Donald in office to help Israel genocide faster.
I'm going to start collecting receipts for the very next time I see a comment like this, because people are definitely saying that.
I don’t think many people are saying that the morality of a genocide is complicated, but I think plenty of people ARE saying that classifying a genocide when no two look alike and both sides of the current conflict obfuscate and lie about the facts is complicated. A lot of people are saying that responding to a genocide occurring within an entrenched conflict in one of the most volatile regions on the globe where nearly every major world power has involvement and interests IS complicated. Many of those saying that international diplomacy is complicated understand that when the most important allies of a nation violating human rights pull their support too hard or too fast that that nation is likely to accelerate its plans to try and accomplish its goals before further repercussions prevent it.
We certainly shouldn’t let these complexities prevent us from speaking out regarding what we feel is right, but pretending they don’t exist only serves the most cynical and self-serving of political interests. Resolving human rights abuses is always more complicated than slapping a genocide or not genocide label on the situation and saying “genocide bad” or “not genocide okay.”
The next Israel thread you see, go point out how Biden is a piece of shit for supporting a genocide and see what happens
Yeah but nobody is saying genocide isn't always bad. They may try to pretend it's not genocide. Or that it would be genocide with trump too. Just not what the meme suggests
People being cagey about language that discourages turnout is not the same as condoning genocide, if anything it's being paranoid about the genocide coming here too.