Technology @lemmy.world 0nekoneko7 @lemmy.world 6 mo. ago

Google Chrome change that weakens ad blockers begins June 3rd

www.bleepingcomputer.com Google Chrome change that weakens ad blockers begins June 3rd

Google is continuing with its plan to phase out Manifest V2 extensions in Chrome starting in early June 2024, weakening the abilities of ad blockers.

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Firefox is the way. If you haven't tried Firefox since 2008, you should. It is as fast as Chrome. It has improved significantly since 2008.
- They’re also prioritising a few great and much needed QoL improvements like vertical tabs, tab grouping and a new Profile Management system!
  
  https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/
  
  You left out the AI on purpose, shill.
- Firefox Containers are a game changer.
  
  Only if you could choose the default container for the new tabs instead having to long press the new tab button and selecting it manually.
  
  Came here to say this. I wish other browsers would catch up to Firefox and add this feature for when I have to use them (esp. Chrome/Edge).
- Not that benchmarks matter a whole lot these days, but I think for some benchmarks it was faster than Chrome. It's close enough to not even be a factor, in any case.
  
  Also, it has a feature that Chrome seemingly has no analogue for, and that is: containers.
  
  I never entirely stopped using Firefox. I still use Chrome alongside Firefox for certain things at work.
- It had its lows and highs in my opinion. But yeah Firefox on desktop is a great experience right now. Sadly I can't say that about mobile version, it's frustrating to say the least.
- I had some issues with Firefox and have switched to Brave. It's been working just fine.
  
  Brave is Chromium based. UBlock will be affected by the changes.
Stop using Google products

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk
- Linux phones need to get good asap cause im ready to ditch android at a seconds notice.
  
  Careful, the ArchPhone is closer than you think haha.
  
  Hate that the overwhelming majority of phones don't have the ability to just install an alternative OS. I know it's because of hardware, but holy hell, the amount of hardware on PCs Linux supports is massive, and only a fraction of it is hardware that has released any real specifications to create a Free version of its driver. I don't think we've really concentrated on creating such things for phones in the same way or we'd be able to throw a phone UI version of Linux on nearly any phone out there. As it is, each alternative is limited to half a dozen or a little more of generally the same phones, and they're generally expensive as hell.
  
  Where's my btw I use Arch phone? Because I want my btw I use Arch phone.
  
  Linux phones might already be good, that's not the issue.
  
  The issue is apps like my bank app, I need to be able to access and manage my bank accounts from my phone. How is that going to work on a non android phone?
  
  If there is a solution for things like that, I'll drop Google in a heartbeat
  
  Could just do a de-googled phone.
  
  They're already good with Android.
Imagine driving to work thinking “ today’s the day we finally help those ads get through “
- Nah, working at Google means sleeping at Google. There’s no driving to work /s
  
  https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2020/09/04/google-has-master-plan-to-build-a-massive-corporate-town-for-its-employees/
  
  That's not a new concept, look up "mining towns" or Detroit.
  
  That actually sounds kinda nice until you get fired. Lose your job and home in the same week.
- I’m going to be honest. If that work was making me 6 figures, I would sleep like a baby.
  
  6 figures isn't all that much these days. They say everyone has a price, but you're a bargain.
I switched to Firefox 6 months ago as a test experiment. I literally have NO REASON to ever open chrome again. Imported my passwords and the transition was smooth as butter. And I am a stubborn turd that hates change. Firefox plus Ublock origin and superagent fixed everything wrong with the internet for me.
- What gets me about this change is that it hurts enterprise more than anybody. I don't use chrome anymore for anything in my personal life, and haven't in several years now. However, it's the only browser I can use for work. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  
  I'm similarly wondering about these changes getting ported to MS Edge. I have Ublock Origin on Edge on my work computer now, but if they move Edge to Manifest v3 then I guess Ublock won't work, then my work browser will be less secure.
- superagent
  
  How's that vs just enabling the built-in lists i uBO?
  
  Does Ublock do cookie settings? I used superagent so I never see those cookie pop ups, it just declines all optional cookies.
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-asked-questions-(FAQ)#filtering-capabilities-which-cant-be-ported-to-mv3
- God bless the uBlock devs.
As soon as I heard of the mere plan to do this, I ditched Chromium altogether and went back to Firefox. Ultimately, I landed on the fork Floorp.
- Can you elaborate on why floorp is better than Firefox? Is it just more customization?
  
  https://www.fastcompany.com/91038756/why-floorp-has-become-browser-of-my-dreams
  
  Pros: vertical tabs, web apps, side panel, workspaces, many customizations. to be clear tho, Firefox has already stated they will be incorporating most of these features by version 130 or sooner.
  
  Cons: no mobile app, video playback with DRM may be an issue on some sites, uncertain future, essentially it's maintained by one dev so if they ever go the future is uncertain.
  
  tl;dr, Floorp is kind of like Vivaldi with customizing and privacy in mind, but based on Firefox's gecko engine
- I had the exact same journey as you: Chrome to Chromium to Firefox to Floorp.
Google is collapsing because we are not the customer they serve (anymore). We are the product.

They have spoiled all the good will their brand has which means they are vulnerable to competition.
- Since when were we the customer? I never paid for Google anything.
  
  I mean a few of us are still ... Android, Chromecast (Android TV), Google One, Google Suite, Google Mesh, Nest (the few products that remain).
Does this apply to chromium browsers too?
- Yes. In the article it links to a blog post made by chromium.
  
  https://blog.chromium.org/2024/05/manifest-v2-phase-out-begins.html
  
  Browsers based on chromium do not have to follow exactly what the main branch is doing. If they want to keep supporting MV2 or support different rules for MV3, they can. Albeit it's a bit cumbersome.
- Nope. Won't happen to those having inbuillt ad-blocker, as those are not extension and thus aren't affected by MV3.
  
  Permanently Deleted
- It depends. It will not affect many of them until 2025 when enterprise support for v2 ends and by then other arrangements and fixes might be. Brave in particular I would not worry yet.
- Maybe. Who the fuck knows?
Staying with Edge to see exactly what happens.

Firefox.

"What will shalafi be doing on June 4th?"
Does anyone know how this could affect Brave? I've suggested it for non-tech Google Chrome refugees who find Firefox difficult to use.
- who find Firefox difficult to use
  
  WTF? HOW? How is it difficult to use? It works like any other web browser?!
- Why would Firefox be difficult to use?
  
  Different shortcuts, ways of customizing the browser, etc. the browser may feel like second nature to you currently, but for others, there's friction in changing the software you've use for over a decade, and I say this as a current Floorp user
- There is absolutely nothing difficult to use in Firefox. If anything it's easier, as most of the settings aren't arbitrarily hidden to prevent you from changing them. There are also fewer bullshit settings because they aren't harvesting your data.
- MV3 won't affect inbuilt ad-blockers such as Brave's one (or Vivaldi's, I guess), as those are not extensions. MV3 is exclusively about extensions.
- I'm not a user of brave, but I did a quick Google and it looks like they're ad blocking will be unaffected. As for other extensions, I think that at least some will be supported for a year, while others may break immediately but I didn't take too deep TBH
- https://community.brave.com/t/psa-current-faq/464018/30

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