Samsung loses lead in foldables market after 42% slump in sales

I still don't think the tech is there. My current phone is 6 years old and there still is no reason to get a new one - I couldn't imagine a foldable lasting that long. The ones I've seen in person didn't age particulary well.
- And you still have an SD card slot and headphone jack - you are ahead of the curve
  
  Also an IR blaster as someone who also has an LG V20. It's a shame that these phones can't rock custom roms beyond android 8 or 9 (only if you live in Korea) due to Qualcomm refusing to give the community volte drivers and technically these phones never having an official way to unlock the bootloader. But using android 8.0 in 2024 isn't that bad yet and I can totally justify still using a 2016 smartphone in 2024 especially when it benchmarks the same as low end smartphones today plus it has a removable battery.
- Exactly, folding phones have so many issues people very rarely buy a folding one again.
- I'm still rocking an LG V20. Haven't seen anything since I got it that interests me enough to switch. The fact that I'd lose so much functionality is a big reason for that. Thankfully it's really tough and the battery is trivial to replace. I imagine the days are numbered before apps stop supporting it but until that becomes a problem I don't see myself replacing it. It's sad really. I was so optimistic for the future possibilities of what smart phones could do when I got this one and it turned out to be just about the last one before they all started stripping every feature they could think of.

Let's see why that might be...
not waterproof (or resistant in any way to water)
ugly crease in miffle of screen.
uber sensitive "glass"
fragile mechanical hinge
stupidly expensive price tag
inferior cameras when compared to slabs
- My last Google Pixel barely touched water and that was the end of that. Meanwhile, I remember a friend literally dropping his flip phone into a glass of beer (intentionally to show off its waterproofness) nearly two decades ago and it being perfectly fine after he took it out.
  I don't have a point, I'm just still bitter about the Pixel. I wish more companies would make smaller phones.
  
  Weird that your Pixel didn't handle water
  I've dropped my 8 pro into the tub like 8 times in the 8 months ive owned it and it just disabled the port and is fine
  Same with my pixel 6, 4, and 2 XL
  Come to think of it I haven't lost a phone to liquid since my LG G7, which I dropped into a bucket of diesel
  
  My Pixel Fold got dropped in sub zero ethenol (don't ask), and it was fine. So I think you just got unlucky.
- Well, first you should really check the facts before you throw out some nonsense.
  The Z Folds are IPX8 water resistant. But it's not resistant to dust.
  Having a big dynamic island taking away content on screen is actually 10000 times worse than an invincible crease when you look at the screen in front of the screen.
  Actually, the outer screen on any smartphones are likely to get cracked a long time before the inner screen on the Z Folds gets damaged.
  The hinge on the Z Fold5 is rock solid. The Z Fold4 had a bad hinge. I know because I was unlucky to get a bad hinge on my Z Fold4.
  If you look at the price on an iPhone 15 Pro Max, specifically here in Norway, you will see that the Z Fold5 with 512 GB internal storage is about 100 dollar cheaper than the iPhone 15 Pro Max with 512 GB internal storage.
  That's true. But that doesn't means the cameras on the Z Fold5 are bad in any ways though.
  
  I mean, saying a model is cheaper than the latest iPhone is like saying Teslas are cheaper than Mercedes-Benz.

Maybe they could switch things up and offer a single modern mini phone model, under 5".
- And they should. Thier foldable phone is garbage. My wife has one. There a permanent crease in the middle and it glitches out. We are going have to get her a new phone soon.
- Size is the main reason I moved to a foldable 2 years ago. I'd love something reasonably sized instead of everything being giant phablets.
  
  I use Sony Xperia phones, they aren't as big and still have the same features I love - SD Card and Headphone Jack
- https://youtu.be/iR9zBsKELVs

People aren't buying as many phones as they used to, and the Chinese are making cheaper foldables now.

Sorry but folding glass phones are stupid.
Glass is glass and glassbbreaks - Jerry Rig Everything

That's because since introducing the market, they haven't really innovated at all. Others came up with better hinge designs, orientations, and built better interfacing software.

I would be an ideal customer for the Samsung fold but I never pulled the trigger because
the dimensions make the closed device too tall. Make it the same as the Ultra non foldable.
screen fold mechanism/hinge not as good as their competition
must have the S pen (I know views on this are divided)
I remain a happy Note Ultra customer instead. Hey, they still get my money so it's not all bad for Samsung.
- I thought the new Fold has the S pen?
  I also remain on my note 20 ultra, though I may trade it in when I lose updates later this year. I'm currently leaning towards S22 ultra. Considering foldables but hear so much bad user feedback on reliability, and I also love telephoto pics so I think the S22 is the clear superior choice
  
  Just upgraded through Samsung Direct to the s24 Ultra from note 20 ultra. They have really good deals right now. Its probably the last opportunity to get $550 trade in on the n20u.

Phones are expensive and fragile. No need to add movable parts and more fragility to the mix. Especially not at those price points.

Samsung phones are full of adware and shit. No accident they are "chosen" as top phones by reviewing websites.
Consumers don't get the best phones in those reviews. They are paid for.

Everyone here is taking a dump on foldables, but I bought a Motorola razr 2023 for myself as a kind of Christmas present and after having a phone that comfortably fits in my pocket for the first time in like 10 years there is no way I'm going back to phablets. Thanks, I love it.

Fuck the foldable market. I bought the zFold 3 and the fucking screen cracked simply because I unfolded it to write a note. Had it for 2 weeks; I take care of my things (I bought the s22 ultra to replace the fold, and I'm still using it to this day and it still runs/looks like new), so it wasn't a fucking "me issue". Screw foldable phones like the zFold.
- Did it covered by warranty though? I'm probably ok with the foldable screen cracking every once in a while as long as the warranty fully covers it every time it happens.
  
  Yeah, but there is no way I'm keeping a phone that constantly breaks whenever you simply use it. Warranty doesn't last. I doubt you'll still be OK after it breaks for the x time, this time not under warranty.

Fuck Samsung, I'm glad these companies are spanking them. That said, my boss bought me a Fold5 cause you don't say no to a free brand new phone. Its not worth the price tag buy a different foldable if you are enthusiast.

Moto flip is a thing. If I were to get one it'd probably be the moto razr
- And it comes in pink!
  (Magenta, but still)

I have the galaxy fold 4 and it is still going strong. Love that phone.
- Same, have an upvote

Foldable phones look like the best of both worlds, but that screen looks like one fold the wrong way and it's problems.

I had the Z Fold 3 and now the 5. It's great. I'd happily move to another company's if they were just as good or better, but also cheaper. The price tag is the only issue and I managed to avoid the full price twice. First by buying a used one at half price, then trading it back to Samsung for any $800 off the 5, which was a great deal.

Laughs in Galaxy S10

Samsungs are for aces now?
- Oh so that's why South Korea's birth rate is plummeting. It all makes sense now.