Nonconsensual AI porn is hated on the left and right. Can Congress act on it?
Nonconsensual AI porn is hated on the left and right. Can Congress act on it?
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I feel an easy and rational solution is to criminalize a certain category of defamation… presenting something untrue/fabricated as true/real or in a way that it could be construed as true/real.
Anything other than that narrow application is an infringement on the First Amendment.
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The majority of "AI" generated / altered porn is already very much labeled as such though.
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Exactly. Photoshop has been around for decades. AI is just more of the same. I find it weird how, as technology evolves, people keep fixating on the technologies themselves rather than the universal (sometimes institutional) patterns of abuse.
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I feel an easy and rational solution is to criminalize a certain category of defamation… presenting something untrue/fabricated as true/real or in a way that it could be construed as true/real.
I would love that solution, but it definitely wouldn't have bipartisan support.
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But that just is illegal already.
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It’s not, though. Not remotely. At least not in the US.
Defamation of an individual (including “individual” entities like an org or business) is purely a civil matter, and defamation in a broader sense, such as against “antifa” or “leftists” or “jews” or “gays” et al, has no remedy whatsoever, civil or criminal.
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Just another reason why we can't ethically introduce AI.
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Pandoras box has already been cracked way open. Shit is already in military application.
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Can AIs really consent, though?
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No-one cares if you consent to being drawn. The problem here isn't the consent of the depicted person, it's that the viewer is being misled. That's why the moral quandary goes away entirely if the AI porn is clearly labeled as such.
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I still don't understand why this is now an issue but decades of photo editing did not bother anyone at all.
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Anyone could run it on their own computer these days, fully local. What could the government do about that even if they wanted to?
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The govt's job is not to prevent crime from happening, that's dystopian-tier stuff. Their job is to determine what the law is, and apply consequences to people after they are caught breaking it.
The job of preventing crime from happening in the first place mainly belongs to lower-level community institutions, starting with parents and teachers.
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Anyone can make CSAM in their basement, what could the government do about that even if they wanted to?
Anyone can buy a pet from a pet store, take it home and abuse it, why is animal abuse even illegal?
Should I keep going with more examples?
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What do you want them to do, have constant monitoring on your computer to see what applications you open? Flag suspicious GPU or power usage and send police to knock on your door? Abusing people or animals requires real outside involvement. You are equating something that a computer generates with real life, while they have nothing to do with each other.
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I suppose the only thing I disagree with is that the law can do anything about it. Obviously, you can go after sites that have money and/or a real business presence, a la Pornhub. But the rest? It's the wild west.
So... Where do you draw the line exactly? Does this include classic photo manipulation too? Written stories (fanfic)? Sketching / doodling of some nude figure with a name pointed towards it? Dirty thoughts that someone has about someone else? I find this response highly questionable and authoritarian. Calling it abuse is also really trivializing actual abuse, which I, as an abuse victim, find pretty apprehensive. If I could swap what was done to me with someone making porn of "me" and getting their rocks off of that then I'd gladly make that exchange.
I feel I was misconstrued. 1. a law will probably happen, and 2. it will do fuck all because the tool chain and posting/sharing process are going to be completely anonymous.
Yeah, in specific cases where you can determine deepfake revenge porn of Person A was posted by Person B who had an axe to grind, you might get a prosecution. I just don't think the dudes making porn on their Nvidia GPUs of Gal Godot fckin Boba Fett are ever gonna get caught, and the celebrity cat will stay forever out of the bag.
Making things illegal doesn't solve anything in the WWW, principally cos there isn't a world's jurisdiction and cos illegality doesn't stop criminals, see what happened to the war on drugs.. just a big failure.
Maybe attacking the problem from the root like educating people to avoid porn at all could be successful at some point but anyway this it's definitely another problem of the hiperconsumist capitalist scheme.
Edit: I believe if it were illegal even the price of it will go up so it will be a bigger business at the end of the day.
Yeah, it's a hydra.
Cut off the head, 3 more grow back.
You can't ban the tech but you can ban the act so it's easier to prosecute people that upload deep fakes of their co-workers.
That's already illegal in most countries, regardless of how it was made. It also has nothing to do with "AI".