1y ago

Canadian immigration asks medical worker fleeing Gaza if he treated Hamas fighters

www.theglobeandmail.com

Immigration lawyers say the screening questions go ‘above and beyond what is asked in a normal immigration application’

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Jesus Christ how many hoops do Palestinians have to jump through to prove themselves worthy of safety
- Meanwhile I've got a friend, who worked for his country of origin's secret services and had to move to Canada because his and his family's lives were threatened by organized crime, that realized the very person that was threatening him back home is now a Canadian citizen...
  
  My friends friends friends uncle that he went to school with said "nuh uh!" and said your friend was making it up and my friend is now a Canadian citizen.
Idk, seems like asking a medical worker if they followed the Geneva Convention is a fair question.
I wouldn't want a doctor who has been violating a rule that existed since 1864.
- The government isn't asking illegal questions because they want to make sure an immigrant is following international laws.
  
  That's fair, their intentions were probably to bar a Palestinian from entry. In fact, I bet both answers are wrong.
- Look, I get the joke you're making but seriously, people need to comprehend that the Geneva convention (even if we lump in the other treaties that often get confused with it) doesn't cover what civilians are and aren't allowed to do.
  I and police for that matter can use tear gas pending local laws regardless of what the Geneva PROTOCOL says on the matter. Because I am not participating in a war in an official capacity.
  A civilian doctor in another country might be tied by medical ethics codes he has agreed to but he is not tied by the Geneva Convention unless maybe if he is acting in an official capacity for the country and even then it would vary how international law would be applied because neither Hamas nor Palestine are signatories of that convention and likely Hamas soldiers are not fighting in uniform.
  I am not casting a moral judgement on any of the above, I'm just tired of people not understanding what the Geneva Convention and the broader laws of warfare actually mean.
- Meanwhile FiniteBanjo laughing at us from the good place:
A possible answer: "I'm sorry, but when someone is bleeding to death in front of me while screaming incoherently, my priority isn't on finding out who their employer is and they'd be unable to tell me even if I asked." Might stir some vestigial sense of shame in the bureacrat asking the question. Or not.
- Or would you want me to have a discussion with you about politics before I stopped your bleeding?
Answer: "Seriously? I can't even speak their languages to ask. I treated a bunch of burned, filthy, bleeding people while hoping I didn't get shot! I didn't stop to ask for fucking ID."
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